I'm cool with President Kamala Harris

As I type this we still don't know if it's going to be Trump re-elected or Kamala Harris elected president. But I'm okay with this back door method of getting the first woman president -- and an Indian-American one at that -- into the Oval Office. Now that it's essentially a done deal, let's dispense with the pretense that Joe Biden is anything other than barely hanging in there mentally. He may be propped up by his wife before the nation long enough to take the presidential oath of office without staring blankly into space, but at some point during that first year, it's almost a certainty that Kamala will have to replace him. Fine. So be it.

I won't bother creating a horror story about what sort of president Kamala will become since nobody really knows where she stands on anything and she apparently has got no use for the quaint concept called ethics. So there are three possibilities; she surprises everyone and turns out to be an exceptional president of all of the people, she turns out to be a mediocre yawn, or she turns into a total dissaster. It's going to be interesting to see which one of those three happens.

So anyway, I welcome Kamala to the presidency; but first I ask that she and the DNC and Nancy Pelosi wait for about six months before declaring Joe Biden unfit to hold the Oval Office because I am looking forward to a laugh . . . and nothing is going to be funnier than watching the Dem Party's dementia patient president TRY and FAIL to function as president.

 

Your obsession with Kamala is becoming pathetic. After 4 years in the WH,Trump has not even started to function as president. Granted, he didn't try...

 

I've got my fantasies and I can see that you have got yours.

 

It's not an obsession. No one realistically sees Joe Biden as a president. Other than the 60+ million people who did. We got a guy FOUR years older than Trump, with major medical issues. Yes, Joe is a considerable downgrade by every measure. But it is what it is.

 

Interesting perspective - Kamala has a past -as far as overzealous prosecution of small time drug offenses - but, if you don't play the game you do not rise .. and so now that she has wheeled her way in the back door - and could she have imagined a year ago that she would be in this position now.

Will give her a chance - but a dark horse "pardon the pun" for sure. and I like dark horses sometimes

and you are absolutely right - no one has a clue where she stands on anything .. bit of a fresh face in the Oval Orifice.. Pence wasn't exactly my idea of fresh.

but who ever gets in - it is going to be a rough 4 years - once Covid finally passes . and this I would expect to happen within 6 months - spring next year just after they set foot in the white house ... the Economic Tsunami will hit - and its going to be ugly.

 

They won’t wait 6 months, it will — at minimum — be two years, giving Harris two additional terms. And with the new norms of being able to use the White House and taxpayer assets and funds to campaign the incumbency has become even more powerful...
Think of what can be done in 10 years?!

 

I wonder if Senate Republicans will do the right thing and try to help the economy along under a Democratic president or if they will do like they did with Obama and exist simply to obstruct?

 

well this is a pleasant surprise even if only a backhanded compliment. But promise me one thing

You won’t start demanding a “full length birth certicate”

 

I acknowledge your first two paragraphs but the third one is so unfair.

With regular routine, early nights and peaceful environment Biden might spruce up as decent POTUS

 

I agree in that I think the westernized world hasn't even begun to feel the economic repercussions from shutting down for such a long time due to COVID-19. That's one of the few reasons that I wanted a pro-capitalism and pro-business businessman in the Oval Office -- meh, but the vote counters have spoken. As for President Harris -- whenever that happens -- I honestly wish her well . . . but I don't hold out much hope for her future presidency.

 

Time will tell. Where do you think the smart money should be placed on a bet like that?

 

In her case it's not necessary since we know that she was born in Canada. Now that would be a problem unless one of her parents were themself a U.S. citizen. One presumes that is the case, but considering the track record of the Dem Party when it comes to vetting their candidates . . . well, anything is possible.

I'm probably one of the few conservatives who doesn't think the citizen issue is particularly important. Look at Arnold Schwarzenegger. He would give anything to become a U.S. president, and would probably do an excellent job.

 

I know, but could you imagine being his personal assistant? With both Barack and Donald, the job consisted of whispering in his ear, "You are not really a god." With Biden it would be, "You are the president and, no, you cannot play with the Nuclear Football. No sending of your secret service escort out for a long pass catch with it."

 

I think it's very likely that Biden is a one term President and I think the Harris is basically a Pence type VP. There is little chance
that either Pence or Harris could win a general election, so I'm thinking that in 4 years, we'll see a new crop of candidates on both sides.

But what I really hope is that America looks at the crap candidates from this election and decides that the Republican Party and The Democrat
Party have outlived their usefulness, and we can see the rise of a new Centrist Party for all of us who have been left out of the games
that are being played.

 

Or the republicans will remain the party of lunatics, and the Progressives will eventually control the Dem party.

It's hard starting a party, barriers have been set up to prevent it, so I figure the decline of the Republican party will continue, and I am hoping the Dems will go back to what they used to be, the party of reform.

The East Coast establishment used to run the Republican party, after the Western rebellion, they took over the Dem party, and I'd like to kick them to the curb.

 

I would consider myself more of an Eisenhower Republican - so I really hate to see the Republican Party become the home to QAnon dick heads and
the Trump Cult of science deniers. Republicans used to care about the environment and the National Debt. No more.

 

Some of us consider Trump to be the most effective president since Teddy Roosevelt. He not only tried but succeeded against the wave of resistance from you folks.

 

So now the American people are stuck with Sleepy Joe and Camel Toe to lead us into infamy!

 

He succeeded in what exactly?

 

Look it up. You will have to look beyond your lefty blogs and media, though.

 

I don't think republicans, myself included, ever stopped caring about the environment. Nor have I stopped caring about the burden of debt that has been wracked up for two decades now. Science is a wonderful thing. It just isn't a substitute for morality. Science cannot become moral. Which is why it is always a terrible underpinning for public policy.

Think about it this way. The application of a scientific maxim precludes entirely the option for free choice. Eisenhower was a tower for civil liberties and the respect for the freedom to choose and be left alone for your choices. Adopting a scientific approach become determinative, and frankly tyrannical. So, from my perspective we use science as reference points where appropriate. But for me, there is a lot of what science identifies that both 1) has no place in public policy, and 2) violates the principle foundation of human freedom. (or can).

 

No way he'll go two years, even with an adoring "media", this ain't the 1940s and they won't be able run cover like they did for FDR. A president has to be available publicly nowadays. 2yrs? Nope. Nada. Nyet.

 

I was for Red as well this time as Blue has gone way to the extreme - Now they are the Neocon - Anti ACLU - Anti Environment Party in this new Orwellian world we live in.

The cost of Covid will be much higher than the Housing Bubble. After the 2008 meltdown - the deficit for the next fiscal year 2009 was 1.4 Trillion. Part of this deficit was because federal revenue dropped from 2.7 Trillion down to 2.1 So you have 400 Billion baked into the cake - 600 Billion due to revenue drop and the other 400 Billion was Stimulus spending - 250 of which was TARP.

Not sure if you noticed that not only did Exxon announce layoffs 14,000 - but also notice they will not be paying a cent in tax this year - and nor will a gazillion other companes that were crushed - and also laying off workers .. if not all because the company went bankrupt.. With all these mergers like what is happening in the shale sector - you get layoffs.

Revenue drop this time ? on 3.8 Trillion expected for 2021 fiscal year that just started ? - will be more than 600 Billion.
We were at roughly 1.2 Trillion in deficit prior to covid for 2020 fiscal year- add in the Covid stimulus spending = Nightmare. deficit for 2020 is going to be over 3 Trillion. (compare 1.8 Trillion in stimulus spending to 400 Billion for 2009)

It took 4 years for Fed revenue to get back to 2.7 Trillion including the 2009 fiscal year .. the entire first Obama term.

This ?? its not even over yet .. Remember the main economic damage happens after the crash - and we are still in the middle of it.

2021 ? Oh God - the first order of Business of congress will be to pass stimulus aka "The Hero's Act"

"$2.2 trillion HEROES Act would provide second round of stimulus checks"

"McConnell says reaching an economic stimulus deal is ‘job one’ when Senate returns"

On the revenue side ? - it will not be anywhere near the 3.8 Trillion hoped for - but spending is projected at 5 Trillion for a baked in deficit of at least 1.2 Trillion.

So prior to starting the year - we have 3.2 Trillion deficit baked into the cake. on expected revenue of 3.8 Trillion - which is going to come in at least a Trillion lower = 4.2 Trillion - and we have a whole year to pass more stimulus.

Oh - and did I mention - The Economic Tsunami has not hit yet - and the longer we continue in lock down mode - the bigger that wave will be.

One day - say 6 months from now - covid will end - and sometime thereafter - money will stop falling from the tree - and shortly after that the wave will hit.

The next 4 year term will be a train wreck - and it has not even started year

 

The Senate remains in GOP hands although saying Collins will vote Republican is self-evident lunacy. I won't insult your intelligence by claiming otherwise. So now it's on to the 2022 election cycle, and 2024 beyond that.

Imagine what four years tops will do if Biden dies in office (politically more honorable than dying in a prison ward) and Harris has just enough time to reveal her own socialism to a public who will reject her in 2024.

The next senatorial elections will whittle away at the Democrats, although unfortunately Michigan reelected both its Demo-slugs so we're merely treading water, same worthless governor, same state supreme court chief justice whom the entire cast of the TV show The West Wing all made TV spots for....the fix was definitely in.

 

So the next Pandemic hits (we've already had 2 in the last 15 years, so it's likely soon) and the death rate is closer to Ebola in scope - do we ignore science and let people decide if they will quarantine or wear masks because it would interfere with their "freedom" to do otherwise?

I do remember how the Republicans screamed about even letting one American with Ebola back into the states during the Obama years, so I'm guessing your "freedom" argument disappears when the death rate tops 10%. It's all relative, isn't it.