In California, Illegals Come First; Californians Don't Matter

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  1. ButterBalls

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    That's all you'll get from here on out or that silly word mixed with some narrow state law that basically doesn't come close to suspending MANY other federal laws on employing undocumented :)
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Low information or just misinformed ?

    It's the inconvenient myth that America is a free country.

    BTW:
    California is at the bottom when it comes to personal freedoms and the freedom of choice.
     
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    LOL, Annoying Orange Trump starts a civil war.

    Army members are usually decent guys. They won't shoot American citizens because a crazy president says so. Trump should better try the KKK or his dear friends Putin and Kim.
     
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    Or pump a 100 billion in to the United States Marshals Service and hire tens of thousands federal Marshals at the cost to California and flood the entire state with them.. Start with an all out offensive on businesses and places like Lowe's, home depot and other popular hangout for undocumented day workers ;)
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm working on getting out if this totalitarian state.

    A whole crapload of accesses that I have to dispose of.

    The day I leave California the Democrats will have no choice but to raise taxes again to fill the vacuum.

    WARNING to all Californios who were deceived and voted no on Prop 6 to repeal Jerry Brown's gas tax and car registration fees increases !!!

    On July 1st 2019 the gas tax will again increase another .06. cents per gallon in California.
    So will your car registration fees (tax)
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Buses are for poor people and illegal aliens.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It has everything to do with illegal aliens and legal immigrants.

    40 million people live in a state with one party rule.

    There's always been droughts in California and enough water.
    But not for 40 million people.

    There's always been enough housing in California including affordable housing.
    But not for 40 million people.

    And the Democrats in Sacramento still have the welcome mat out at the border.
     
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    Illegal aliens aren't U.S. citizens and many liberals and most progressives consider themselves as internationalist, citizens of the world.
     
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    These sanctuary city dems need to be careful should Trump come after them.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Literally that's not an exaggeration now.

    If you just added up those who were not born in the country, those who are the children of undocumented illegal immigrants, and those who are illegal immigrants themselves, it would add up to about half of the state's population.

    Significantly more than that if you don't count all the older people over 55 years of age.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's a big difference between the immigrants who came to America during the 1800's and early 1900's compared to today's immigrants.

    In the past immigrants quickly assimilated and adopted America's customs, traditions, culture and the language that was like a glue that held America together, English.

    Today's immigrants be they legal or illegal don't assimilate and expect native born American citizens to adopt or accept their customs, traditions, culture and foreign language.
     
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    Then they should all get together, all 30% of them, and go for it.

    I don't think the gov't is ignoring them, is tRUMP ignoring 65% of USA citizens? Many think so, do you?

    Yes, they vote to seek representation in gov't. That is how they get their voices heard.
     
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    If employers can ignore federal laws, why can't states? tRUMP had business that ignored federal laws when they knowingly employed illegals.

    The burden falls on the employers who hire. Background checks. If forged docs are so good, it is hard to know, I am sure the courts will not punish those employers. But when companies such a tRUMPs tell them to go get better documentation, then they should be jailed.
    But the RW isn't for that. So, we will not reduce or solve the problem.
     
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    blah blah blah. Illegals can't vote.

    I bet you try to claim yourself as a limited gov't type person, who wants the fed gov't to militarily go in a occupy a state. LOL, you RWers.
     
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    Yet you live there. And complain about it daily.
     
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    Do you know to this very day, all across the landscape of America, there are celebrations of German days(October fest), Italian days, Finnish days, etc etc etc. As a way to remember the homeland that was their ancestors.
    And all the 1st generation and often the 2nd generation of immigrants spoke their native language until they died. Where the 2nd generation was likely able to speak both, since they likely attended school in the USA.
    It is no different today. More RW baloney.
     
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    Illegals vote. California appoints illegals to sacramento.
     
  18. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Blah blah bla," "is that a code word like how "comprehensive immigration reform" is the code word for AMNESTY ?
     
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    There are of course always people who feel they aren't being heard. Most of the time that really means heard but not getting their way. one has to look at the situation to decide which it is.
    Trump, for example- is hardly ignoring anyone that I can see, but neither is he giving outrageous claims and ideas any traction.

    Perhaps the simplest test of any political direction is that question of if you are better off today than you were at some time past. It's a question of direction- are we getting stronger or weaker?
    As an investor and business manager, I know how important that trend is, and how hard it can be to reverse a bad one once it is entrenched. The financial issues that California faces and the change in them over time clearly is a strong negative trend, weakening the state. The mentality of government- the management guiding the critical choices- would be in my opinion, disastrous to any company of any size regardless of present condition. When you find yourself riding a losing trend, only a fool stays the course and denies the state of conditions. That is what I see California doing- it's as if they either believe there will be an endless flow of revenue no matter what they do, or they just aren't capable of good management. Makes no difference why these conditions exist, because the outcome can only be changed by changing the course and guiding principles. Nobody in California government seems to have the slightest interest in the consequences of their choices, so I don't see that happening in time. Voters don't control what politicians do today- at best, they can only alter who is in charge at elections. Promises are not guarantees, and sadly politicians are generally eager to tell people what ever will get them votes. Just a couple day ago, Joe Biden promised he would cure cancer if elected. I'm skeptical....
     
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    Most who are old enough to remember when California was the greatest state in America when California was the Golden State complain that California has become a shithole state.

    It's the natural thing to do unless your a Marxist or an anarchist or an illegal alien or a MS-13 member.
     
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    Ironically many of these Mexican immigrants (both legal and illegal) like freedom, more than the average American Progressives living in California.
    But they vote for the Party that takes away freedoms because many of them live in virtual poverty and want the free stuff.

    There definitely are more illegal than legal Mexican immigrants. Some of the legal ones don't like it because they think the illegals give Mexicans a bad reputation.
    The Progressives are just encouraging the illegal ones to see themselves more as Mexicans than Americans.
    (Diversity, celebrating other cultures, and a general dislike of America or patriotism to America, really helps with identity politics too when it comes election time)
     
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    Some are yes.

    But there is a lot of marxism in latin america too.
     
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    Germans are the largest ethnic group in America. But they hold their loyalty to America and always have.
    Twice Americans of German descent have went to war against Germany and killed tens of thousands of German soldiers.

    Italians are the third largest ethnic group in America and had no problem shooting Italians during WW ll.

    Germans, Italians and even the Finnish immigrants quickly assimilated and became American's first.

    Even former President Obama recently said, telling someone to speak English isn't racist.
    Obama said if you are living in America...speak English.
    The left still hasn't responded to Obama's message to immigrants, they got suckered punched by Obama.
     
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    I know there's a lot of Marxism there, and that inevitably tends to lead to taking away of freedom, but I was just saying having freedom taken away is not in their culture.

    One Mexican told me he feels like things are a lot more strict and controlled in the US, and there are all sorts of things you can do in Mexico that you can't do in the US.
    Mexican culture is more lax.
     
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    Actually I recently talked to a few Mexican immigrant families who have been naturalized as U.S. citizens and was very disturbed what I heard.

    They actually think California is like Disneyland, the happiest place on Earth.

    Not one understands the purpose of the Second Amendment and wouldn't have a problem if the government confiscated every gun in America.

    None have no idea what personal freedoms are or the freedom of choice and have no problem being told by leftist in government how to live their lives.

    One naturalized Mexican who owns a business was sweeping the sidewalk outside of his store, sweeping all of the trash onto the streets.

    He said that's why we pay taxes so the government would come by and clean up the trash that he swept onto the street.
     
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