Incredibly disrespectful children.

I'd wear out a lifetime's worth of belts on my kid's ass, If I found out he ever did something like this.

 

I get what you are saying, in a philosophical sense, and practically too, as it's been shown that the mind/brain is quite plastic, and that nurture can override nature. I'm of the opinion though, that sometimes nature pulls a quick one on us by producing a brain (and resultant mind) which is inherently predisposed to being more aggressive/domineering than typical.

I'm not saying that's the case for the kids displayed in the OP video though. I get the impression that the behavior displayed by these particular kids has more to do with their upbringing and the cultural (I'm not referring to race here in the slightest) aspects of the groups they associate with.

 

Won't disagree with you, totally. Plenty of studies support that, especially in serial killers... but I think cases like that are too few to solidify the notion that nature is the stronger influence. Some sure, but not many.

 

The kids are too young to be taken this seriously imo, everyone has contributed upwards of 450k to this ladies net worth as a way to get back at the kids but it doesn't seem neccessary.

After all their just seventh graders.

 

IMO, those kids have "dick" genes in them that will make them "dicks" for life. They need to be stopped.

 

You're right, it's not necessary. But IMO, it represents the idea that this sort of disrespect is not the sort of thing that Americans at large approve of. This is not the kind of society we want or approve of. People all over the nation, who're unable to do so in person, have expressed condolences in one of the few ways they're able to, by transferring some money. It's a resounding "This is not what we want or represent/I'm so sorry you had to suffer these little monsters".

 

agreed maybe im just being envious that she got a half a million dollars for this.

 

Evidently she was raised in the south. Southern children were taught to respect their elders. Manners and obedience were a daily lesson in the home or you might find yourself in the cow lot shoveling what you are saying.

 

I agree with being raised in the South as being more respectful...back when.

I also spent my youth as a military dependent where my dad et all who were serving were held 'totally responsible' for their kids behavior. It reflected directly on them and their record/promotion, and so we didnt want to disrespect them and were raised with discipline, and thus became self-disciplined!

The problem today is the 'it takes a village' has fallen apart. Discipline used to be consistent between family & school, paddling was allowed, and kids didnt run amuck but were expected to maintain a certain standard of self-discipline....pretty much the whole values thing has fallen apart with failure at all levels of modern American society....dont know if this country 'can' ever recover?! Esp with the 'progressive' philosophy that has made us a litigious society..

 

Disciplining children is not child abuse. Allowing children to be undisciplined and to have their own way is child abuse. People do not like nor want to be around an unruly and undisciplined child. Also a patient parent is not one that indulges nor condones an unruly child that is a stupid parent.

 

I agree.
How many times have we read that youngens can make their own decisions, should be seen as responsible in their own right, should be respected for who they are?
But I do blame parenting. Knowing little about their background, one can only assume though.

 

that sounds like child abuse, as bad as the kids on the bus were they don't deserve the branding and stinging of a belt that is comparable to torture even prisoners of war aren't subjected to such punishment.

 

I disagree that all adults should get special treatment and that children should fear them. As I said respect should be given to everyone initially, but if some adult is total d-bag to my kid I do not expect him to remain respectful just because that person is an adult. Not all adults are deserving of respect, but this was just a minor point in my posts with Herkdriver. I understand completely what he was saying, it was how I was raised by my father as well just not how I have chosen to raise my child. I want my son to be happy and a good and kind man, after that my strongest wish is for him to a independent thinker who is confident enough to draw his own logical conclusions. I want him to question everything and everyone. I want him to judge people off of merit not age, uniform, skin color, etc etc.

What I was really trying to argue is that bullying isn't ok when done to other children just like it is not ok when done adults. I don't see a reason why we should create double standard. Imagine if every time some little (*)(*)(*)(*)s got caught ridiculing another kid like they did this lady in the video that society acted in the same way it did to this instance. That just about everyone stood up and said absolutely (*)(*)(*)(*)ing not, just like they did here. My thought is there would be less of it and hence it would become more of an anomaly worth getting riled up for when it did happen. This was a grown woman, she is not more of a victim then a child would have been in her shoes, more over it was her job to correct those kids and she was being paid to deal with them. That doesn't relinquish responsibility of the parents or the children. I would also like to state again that everyone who is so quick to condemn the parents and revel in the children being persecuted by society needs to pause for a moment and think about what they are saying. Most parents would be appalled at something or another that their child has done or said when not in their presence. Some kids are not born inherently nice or compassionate, for some of them it is a learning process so a little lee-way should be given while they are still figuring out who they should be.

 

This is a joke right? Your being sarcastic?

Too young to understand?...lol, at 13 years old? Evidently the parents of these kids are worthless if a 13 year old has no discipline or respect for elderly folks.

 

This video is sick and disgusting. The lady should have walked up to the bus driver and the bus driver kicked the kids off the bus.

Byproducts of the "don't discipline your kids" mentality. No, instead let them wonder through life with no respect or consequences for anything they do, and treat people like trash. These are miserable, unhappy kids.

Bunch of heathen kids and parents.

 

Driver shud have stopped the bus and called in..waited for school officials to come, and then called all the parents on the carpet---making them inconvenienced and missing work/tennis dates, etc. for their failure as parents..

The lack of disciplining one's children and allowing them to grow up w/o subsequent 'self-discipline,' is turning irresponsible monsters loose on society, and is in fact latent child abuse!

 

Its really simple, and it boils down to common decency. Just imagine, a world in which we treat others as we wish to be treated.

 

People have contributed nearly half a million dollars over the past 36 hours.

 

While that may be true, a bandage does not cure the illness, and I think you know it. Nearly half a million dollars don't undo what's done, although its a wonderful gesture.

 

Yep, but according to you and your OWS friends she is now a 1%er...lol.

Care to respond on the fact half of that money is going to the government?

 

She will still be able to live comfortably for the rest of her life (and no, the government wont take 50%...). Also some major airline is going to fly her and 9 others she picks to Disneyland for free for an all paid 3 day vacation (she is a grandmother of 8 ). Can't tax that.
Also, unlike most of the 1%, she wasn't born into riches. she is 68 and has worked hard her whole life. Unlike a lot of other "wealthy people" like Snookie (however its spelled).

 

Um, yes she will lose half that money to taxes.....lol. You can't gift someone $450,000 and not have it go bye-bye.

 

Yes, sorry, dont think even Obama can Exec Order her out of paying Gift Tax...

 

Its up over like 450k now.

 

There was a Deli up the block from my office, if you went in there when school let out [High School] you practically took your life in your hands, these kids were just awful. . The owner was a real nice Korean old man [I knew him for years], they harassed him [and would steal] something terribly. Sometimes he would lock the door and not let them in, they would curse constantly and bother anybody in there. I remember taking notice that the girls were as bad and some worse than the guys.

In my neighborhood this is just not the case, I do not know exactly why that is, it may have something to do with the High school being in a poor neighborhood. Single parenting may have something to do with it,,,not sure.