Interest In Obama Eligibility Surging

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  1. rahl

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    It seems all the birthers ran away. Reality to birthers is like garlic to vampires, lol
     
  2. Casper

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    Except that they will simply post another thread saying exactly the same nonesense and act as if none of their claims have been disproven over and over again. It is the old tactic of repeating a lie often enough that some febble minded morons will actually begin to believe it. My guess is they will continue displaying their stupidity even after President Obama retires in 2017.
     
  3. SFJEFF

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    For the die hard Birthers they will continue on probably for the rest of their lives.

    For the Birthers for hire- Zullo, Apuzzo, WND- it will all go away once there is no more money to be gulled out of the gullible.
     
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    That's a good answer.

    You're right. King Obama didn't post them. He had a flunky post the forgeries, instead. King Obama is too stupid to figure out how to post things on the Internet.
     
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    Do you think that one of the problems Birthers have is that they confused about our form of government here- and were confused when they heard about the inaugeration and thought it was a coronation?

    I mean anyone who can't tell the difference between an inaugeration or coronation probably has a difficult time with those complicated words on a birth certificate.
     
  6. rahl

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    president Obama provided 2 official BC's issued and authenticated by the Hawaii department of health.

    But because I could use a good laugh tonight, can you present your evidence that the BC's which were authenticated by the state of Hawaii are in fact forgeries? And could you explain to me why the department of health, which issues and creates the documents, would forge one, when they could issue a real one saying anything they wanted? You would be the first actual birther to answer that fatal flaw in the birther argument.
     
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    All the skeptics are going to be eating their words when the truth comes out.
     
  8. Montoya

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    Any day now! lol
     
  9. rahl

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    Perhaps you missed my post.........
    How about addressing it now?
     
  10. SFJEFF

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    Yep thats what the Conspiracy theorists are always saying.

    How is that Area 51 evidence coming along?
     
  11. KAMALAYKA

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    Tomorrow, Sheriff Arpaio's people are going to have a press conference at 2:30pm local time, during which the signed affidavit of the man responsible for forging the Obama birth certificate will be presented.

    Pwned.
     
  12. rahl

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    I accept your concession.

    If you provide your pay pal info, I'll wager any amount of money you would like that no affidavit exists, and no evidence of any kinds going to be provided
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    FactCheck.org reviewed Obama's certified COLB, the legal record of birth issued by the State of Hawaii for Obama in 2007, and confirmed that it is authentic.

    When will the WASP racists give up this BS? If there is any question of eligibility related to the 2008 election it is John McCain that failed the criteria of being a natural born citizen of the United States because he wasn't born in the United States, he was born in Panama, and the 14th Amendment clearly establishes that a natural born citizen must be born in the United States.

    But McCain is white so, of course, the WASP racists don't want to question his "natural born citizenship" status where he clearly became a US citizen based upon the naturalization laws passed by Congress. Instead they continue their racist attack on Obama that was born in Hawaii in 1961, where his COLB has been verified as legitimate by a non-partisan organization, that meets both of the criteria established by the 14th Amendment, exclusively because he's an African-American.
     
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    So you are saying that Arpaio and Zullo still haven't shown us anything- and are still promising that they will....soon.
     
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    You're racist for assuming that my motives are racist.

    And secondly, just because an organization calls itself "factcheck.org" doesn't make it so.

    And finally, I'm not a WASP. I'm not even fully white. Does it blow your liberal peanut-brain that a "colored boy" can be a birther? (You liberals are the most racist group of people I know. Typical liberal thinking: "We have to help these n***ers with their livesbecause we're such 'forward-thinking' people.)
     
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    No.

    What I'm saying is that you never bothered to read (or even glance) over the article I posted. If you had, you'd know thag the press conference was for July 17, 2012.
    (And hefore you say, "I won't read it because birthers are wrong," ask yourself this: has circular reasoning ever solved anything in my life?)
     
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    You keep ignoring this...............
    please address now
     
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    I read it- and the message is the same message Birthers have always given- we aren't showing you our super sekrit information now- but just hold on- we will be showing you it really, really soon.
     
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    'Issuing one saying anything they wanted' IS forgery.

    You want to know what I think?

    I think that you hate America! You are willing to overlook the fact that an illegitimate bufoon is in the White House for the sake of your own demented ideology!

    What say you? What say you???

    Exactly.
     
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    So you agree that Ted Cruz born in Canada is not eligible to be president that everyone is contending?
     
  21. rahl

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    How many times are you going to dodge this?

    - - - Updated - - -

    What happened to the press conference?

    Lol birthers
     
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    And?

    So where is that affidavit?

    You were outraged that I scoffed at this 'press conference'- so what happened?

    Birthers lol
     
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    I haven't called anyone a racist but the "birthers" are either racists or the most ignorant people in America today. Someone that self-identifies with them can take their pick.

    We have confirmation that Obama's COLB was authentic and that he was born in Hawaii in 1961. Additionally the Hawaii Dept of Health, which is responsible for birth records, confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. President Obama meets the Constitutional definition of natural born citizen enumerated in the 14th Amendment that existed from the very first day the United States was founded.

    John McCain was not born in the United States but instead was born in Panama. The 14th Amendment establishes that only persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are natural born citizens. If "Birthers" want to question natural born citizenship they need to be questioning the eligibility of the "white guy" that ran in 2008 because he wasn't born in the United States of America. John McCain became a US citizen based upon statutory naturalization laws passed by Congress and not because he's a natural born citizen of the United States.
     
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    He is eligible.

    Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada,[1] where his parents, Eleanor Darragh and Rafael Cruz, were working in the oil business.[9][10] His father was a Cuban immigrant to the United States during the Cuban Revolution.[11] His mother was born and raised in Delaware, in a family of Irish and Italian descent.[10][12] Cruz's parents, who had both attended college in Texas, returned there when Cruz was about four years old
     
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    The criteria for determining who is and who is not a natural born citizen is really much simpler than most would seem to believe. Natural born citizenship is not dependent upon statutory law but statutory law can provide citizenship based upon Article I Section 8 of the US Constitution that delegates the legislature with the responsibility to create uniform laws of naturalization. So let's look at the statutory law of congress related to citizenship at birth.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401

    Now, simply remove this law from the books and who remains? Only those identified under definition (a) because that's just a reiteration of the criteria established by the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution.

    Even if the statutory law doesn't exist these individuals would still be natural born citizens of the United States because their citizenship is established "BY BIRTH" based upon the 14th Amendment as opposed to merely being granted citizenship "AT BIRTH" based upon statutory law.

    Natural Born Citizenship is Established by birth and is exempt for any statutory control by Congress. It is the Right of Citizenship of the Person and the criteria for it is enumerated in the 14th Amendment. Anyone else granted citizenship "at birth" by statutory law is a "naturalized" citizen of the United States. Simply delete this law and whoever is a natural born citizen based upon the US Constitution are the only natural born citizens of the United States. "Born in the United States" and "Subject to the Jurisdiction thereof" is the Constitutional definition of natural born citizen and it is not dependent upon the congressional authority to create uniform laws of naturalization.

    A person born in Canada or Panama or even Guam or Puerto Rico is not born in any of the 50 United States and is NOT a natural born citizen of the United States based upon the enumerated criteria established by the 14th Amendment. Anyone granted citizenship "at birth" under USC› Title 8 › Chapter 12 › Subchapter III › Part I › § 1401 is a naturalized citizen of the United States based upon the statutory authority of Congress to create uniform laws of naturalization under Article I Section 8.
     

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