Anyone who is honest, and takes about one min to read up on the background of MEMRI, will know that it is what is it - a crass propaganda channel, created by Zionist Jews, with one real aim....to deceive and misrepresent. It amazes me that a 'media source', created entirely by Zionist Jews, should engage in routine lies, propaganda, and misrepresentation, since all the Zionist Jews I read about, they seem like people full of honesty, virtue, and truth, who never lie and slander, and never make things up, or attack the author. That is why MEMRI surprises me....it is just soooooooooo unlike their nature, to create something like this. It's not even v good propaganda either, even a Fox News watcher would eventually get the theme of it. We have at least one Egyptian member on here, so perhaps he can tell me, if he has ever heard of the 'honored Egyptian cleric Salem Abu-Futouh'...? To be fair, I have ran his name though Google, and all I find are links back to MEMRI, blogs that have used MEMRI, sites like 'Jihad Watch', etc. Not saying he doesn't exist, it just seems odd that for a 'honored Egyptian cleric', the entire first and second pages of Google just take you round in a circle. There are various possibles here, keep in mind that MEMRI are a propaganda site. 1) That Salem Abu-Futouh exists, but is not a 'honored' cleric, or even a cleric. That he may be Egpytian, or may not, but was paid, by MEMRI, to say the things, that we find MEMRI claiming he said. 2) That Salem Abu-Futouh exists, he is a 'honoured cleric', but is so well known, that he only appears to exist in MEMRI and blogs that use MEMRI. 3) That Salem Abu-Futouh is a v well known cleric in Egypt, whose views, as MEMRI like to impy, are reflective of the mass. 4) That Salem Abu-Futouh is made up. The man in the vids is real. But his name is not Salem Abu-Futouh, he is possibly not Egpytian, and he is basically an actor, paid to produce a propaganda vid. This 'honoured cleric', is alleged to have said that Jews are like vampires. Well, okay, there is the dressing in black thing. And there is the not liking the cross thing. But that's about it, right? Part of propaganda war, is to pass people off as something else. I could give you names and cites of people right now, who were bandied around in the media, as being 'spooky MOOZLIM RADICAL'...and they turned out...not to be Muslims, at all, let's put it that way.. *MEMRI claim this is from AL Nas TV, I have no idea if that may have a wide viewing audience, or one man*. [video=youtube;UlasnE5axiw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlasnE5axiw[/video]
The cite about King Edward 1st is correct though, but ...it was not, from what I can gather, only about this alone. Edict of Expulsion In 1290, King Edward I issued an edict expelling all Jews from England. Lasting for the rest of the Middle Ages, it would be over 350 years until it was formally overturned in 1656. The edict was not an isolated incident, but the culmination of over 200 years of conflict on the matters of usury. Oliver Cromwell encouraged Jews to return to England in 1657, over 350 years after their banishment by Edward I. Build up to expulsion. Jews acquired a reputation as extortionate moneylenders which made them extremely unpopular with both the church and the general public. While an anti-Jewish attitude was widespread in Europe, medieval England was particularly anti-Jewish. Expulsion The first major step towards expulsion took place in 1275, with the Statute of Jewry. The statute outlawed all usury and gave Jews fifteen years to readjust. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Expulsion Many Jews emigrated to countries such as Poland, which at that time protected them (see Statute of Kalisz). I am sure it was everyone else's fault though.
Not at all. I just get tired of certain people WHINING all the time, while, at the same time, they are silent on matters like this.. http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...e-palestinian-children-electric-shocking.html Makes me human, I guess...
Nope. What you have here is Uri, Saying that jack stands for a lot of things, Human is not one of them.
Please do not make the mistake of thinking that a few irate old men with old hatreds in their hearts represent the international community. Most of what the neo-nazis post and have as avatars is illegal in my country. Happily. We snub our noses at these old men and their rantings. Very true. Very often you find that neo-nazis start of respectful and decent. They avoid using the term "jew". It is zionists. Then they start slipping and using the term zionist jew, then jew and then talmudic jew. They start copying and posting protocols in some form or another, with links to Rense or with no links because they know they will be laughed at. When they refer to posters as "Jew", they have completely outed themselves and there is no going back. What follows are lengthy tirades that no one bothers reading on the "Jew". In doing so though, they make your case much easier. They can deny that anti-semitism exists, when they are living proof that it does. So let them bleat away about Jews being the hateful ones, spreading their own hate like poison, knowing that we all can see how much danger you and your people face at their hands.
Hopefully the two members we have here, that are from Egypt, will see this, and give me their comments on.... 'honored Egyptian cleric Salem Abu-Futouh'...?
Another great piece of work Jack. First, Memri translations are exactly that translations. Other arab translators have the same source material, but for some strange reason, a lot of the arabic stuff is NEVER translated at source. There isn't even a fair and honest translation service run by arabs for english language consumption, unless you know one that I have yet to find. so, can rail all you want about Memri being founded by ex IDF intelligence officers or that they are zionists, but when they give a translation, it is open for all to contradict. I won't digress to the whole "wipe Israel off the map" vs "erase the zionist regime from the sands of time" argument since the "gist is quite clear". As to Al Nas TV. another good dodge. It is a highly "reputable" Egyptian Islamic media channel that distributes content thru TV, facebook, twitter, and streaming video. Its website has over 88,000 registered users. As to Salem Abu-Futouh and your inability to find this person in google that is not on a zionist site, perhaps you should have looked at the images of ol abu in your google search and you would then see that the supposed "respected" cleric has made appearances on any number of arabic tv stations. Now unless hes a mossad plant, cleverly inserted to spout blood libel, I think we can safely conclude that the guy is an actual person. (you might also take a gander at youtube, although its all arabic. So, the only issue about this guy spouting blood llibel in the video is the translation. Short of you providing another translation, I'll take the memri translation with minor reservations. When your work product is under the scrutiny of your enemies on a daily basis, if you are constantly shown to deliver a bad work product to your PAYING customers, I'd expect it would be very very bad for business. But don't let the logic of the marketplace and the scrutiny of such a service get in the way of denouncing them. They're bad for your business.
No, I skewered your point. Nice weasel attempt, tho. PS. when you are trying to make a point and use an example to make it, you'd best be sure that the example is actually of the point. He's real, the translation is correct and the medium is legit. OTOH, I do know that both sides are capable of making up people and comments - just look at that famous video of the jenin massacre where the dead body fell off the stretcher, got up, hopped on the stretcher again and was carted off to the "refrigerated" truck in which the Israelils were carting away the 3,000 dead. I can list a whole bunch of examples like that, it can't be that hard jack = why don't you try again?
Jonsa, you are a bit of a bore, who appears to be labouring under the idea that this is a debate to be 'won'. It's not. I already know whatMEMRI are, thanks v much. I did not suggest the Salem Abu-Futouh did not exist, as a real person, in fact, I went out of my way to give all the options, THEN said I would wait until one of our EGYPTIAN members here could offer views, because, for all YOU know, this could be like taking John Hagee or Pamela Geller from the US, and creating a channel that showed them as being representative of Americans, as a whole. MEMRI do not only engage in deliberate mistranlsations, and often dangerously so, they are a propaganda tool, who only EVER portray the non Jewish world in a distorted light. MEMRI are a free service, and journalism being what it is today, ie; turned into churnalism, often under pressure staff will rely now on such 'sources', unwittingly or otherwise, BS ends up being beamed, across the world. Now. Do you mind if I wait until someone from that region can tell me about the man? Thanks so much..
Perfect. Not that you don't take quotes from known fringe players and use them to condemn an entire country and people - REPEATEDLY! and you want to argue about legitimacy of a source who is described by reputable news services as a respected muslim cleric? Somebody that has been on any number of egyptian news shows. Not that any has claimed h could possibly represent all egyptians. Fact of the matter is, this dude believes in the blood libel and he is considered mainstream enough in Egypt to garner air time. Using your own hypocracy as an argument doesn't work. Really? and you know this how? Exactly how many mis transalations has memri indulged in? That they select a lot of stories that depict arab society in a negative light, it does not negate the fact that those stories are still true as gleaned from arab media. Their translations are there for all to verify. funny, that there is RARELY an argument. So, it all comes down to money in the end? Save some dough - publish BS cause its free. Brilliant business strategy. don't hold your breath, jackie. Any arab speaker will tell you the dude said what he said. PS. I consider your content to be a bore, but your twisting is highly amusing.
