Iran agreement - US considering pulling out

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  1. Socialism Works

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    Trump says he is thinking of cancelling the Iran agreement because he says "it is the worst agreement ever". Has he actually said what is wrong with it?
     
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    If Iran was a Christian theocracy would you be on board with them having nuclear weapons?
     
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    Other than the talking points he reads he has no idea what the details of the agreement are. He's much too busy playing golf, watching Faux and Friends, and tweeting to learn anything but a cursory knowledge of anything.
     
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    Like most things Trump, there is no reckoning of unintended consequences. The U.S. pullout from the treaty has a number of those.
    1. Oil prices will rise.
    2. Wall Street will react negatively.
    3. Other signatories will ignore us and isolate us.
    4. Other signatories have already said the U.S. is on its own so no substantial changes
    5. North Korea will say the U.S. can't be trusted to keep its word in any deal.
    6. Ditto ROW, especially TPP.
     
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    Here's an example of a lie he recently told, though this one is likely due to ignorance.

    “In seven years, that deal will have expired, and Iran is free to go ahead and create nuclear weapons. That’s not acceptable. Seven years is tomorrow.”
    — President Trump, discussing the Iran nuclear deal in a White House news conference, April 30, 2018

    “Nevertheless, President Trump’s statement indicates either abject confusion over the parameters of the JCPOA or a willful misinterpretation of that deal,” said Alexandra Bell, senior policy director at the Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation. “Either way, it is dangerous, as Iran will never be ‘free to go ahead and create nuclear weapons.’ ”

    As a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty, Iran has pledged not to develop nuclear weapons — ever. In agreeing to the JCPOA, Iran recommitted itself to the Non-Proliferation Treaty, Bell said. “The NPT is of indefinite duration and serves as the underpinning for the entire global nonproliferation regime,” she said.

    Iran also has agreed to abide by the International Atomic Energy Agency’s Additional Protocol. It has committed to ratify this agreement in 2023. The IAEA already has the ability to investigate nuclear facilities and activities disclosed by Iran’s government. The Additional Protocol supplements those powers by giving IAEA investigators the “ability to investigate undeclared nuclear facilities and activities by increasing the IAEA’s authority to inspect certain nuclear-related facilities and demand information from member states,” according to a 2017 report by the Congressional Research Service. Simply put, Iran has agreed to give international inspectors wide-ranging authority to peer into its nuclear activities.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eapons-in-seven-years/?utm_term=.2195bcef1942
     
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    He is the most uninformed prez ever in the history of this nation.
     
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    The objective of the agreement was to stop Iran pursuing a nuclear program. Despite Netanyahu's lies to the contrary, it appears to be succeeding.
     
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    It is succeeding. Furthermore, the Orange Fraud will not be able to honestly point to a violation by Iran that would justify pulling out of the agreement.
     
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    Trump is a disgrace to the office of President and is making the United States a laughing stock across the world. So sad.
     
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    Trump alleges that the Iran agreement is "one sided". What is America getting out of it? Middle East peace, that has to be worth trillions.
     
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    We can't impose our values on the world and we can't be the policeman for the world.

    It's best for the U.S. to withdraw from the treaty and all foreign entanglements.
     

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