Iran fired cruise missiles in attack on Saudi oil facility: Senior US official

Democracies protect other democracies. They have to. Theocracies are not worth any American lives.

 

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Many claim 'propaganda' but that's often something that just goes against their beliefs, or what they've been taught at an early age.

 

Compared to ebola, malaria is....
Stil it kills 1.5 million people every year.

 

Like Afghanistan and Libya? I think democracy has to be organic .. overthrowing a benevolent monarchy has not worked out well for Afghanistan or Yemen or Libya. I don't think it can be forced on a country prematurely especially in a country with limited experience in civic participation.

 

The Saudis are apparently bending under the pressures on them to blame Iran for the attack against their installations. In the meantime, Pompeo is on his way to Saudi Arabia to coordinate a proper response. Iran, while maintaining that the attack was conducted by the Houthis, has warned that any retaliation or any military moves against it, no matter how limited, will receive a crushing response on all fronts and not be limited to just the origin of any such attack.

 

They sure are sending mixed signals.

A team of U.S. military forensics specialists is already on the ground to gather evidencefrom the sites of the attacks, Gen. Joseph Dunford, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters traveling with him in London.

The U.S. is gathering "compelling forensic evidence" from the debris of the cruise missiles and drones at the two oil facilities attacked this weekend, said a U.S. official. That evidence "will provide a compelling case of where they came from," the official said.

(MORE: Trump urges patience after 'locked and loaded' threat following attack on Saudis)
Another U.S. official said there was enough information to show that the cruise missiles and drones were launched from southwestern Iran.


A third U.S. official had previously told ABC News that a cruise missile and drone targeting the two facilities had been found mostly intact.

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Secretary of State Mike Pompeo listens as President Donald Trump meets with Bahrain Crown Prince Salman bin Hamad Al Khalifa during a meeting in the Oval Office of the White House, Sept. 16, 2019.more +
President Donald Trump and his top advisers have said that Iran was likely responsible for the attack, but the president said he was not in a rush to respond as the U.S. continues to assess the strike.

Instead, U.S. officials told ABC News that the president wants Saudi Arabia to point the finger at Iran -- a move the kingdom has yet to take. Saudi Arabia's Energy Minister said on Tuesday that it did not yet know who carried out the attack, although they have determined the weapons themselves were Iranian.

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Still, the region remains on edge, weighing the gravity of a potential attack on one country by another and what kind of retaliation may come next.

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Why should we entertain a method that simply ignores Iranian hostilities? You'd have the world simply ignore it and reward their bad behavior because why? It isn't that I don't like your answer, it is simply because I think it is dangerous. And no, the "correct answers" have not emerged, nor have you identified any impetus that would indicate that they would. You seem entirely willing to allow the brutalizations to occur, as long as no one in Iran is inconvenienced... That sound remarkably like supporting or promoting the genocide Iran is currently attempting.

 

I hope Iran and SA will get into a fight.
Everyone will win from this.

 

If there is a war, it will be an all out of war. Iran's military doctrine doesn't distinguish between US, Saudi and other allied forces.

 

Do not **** with America, my friend.

 

It is not just America. Like the US, Iran has its own contingency plans in case of a military conflict against would consider a US-led campaign, regardless of who is taking the first shot. That is what Iran's is military has practiced, worked on, trained, and everything -- from its rules of engagement, to target list, to tactics -- is on that basis. And because Iran's posture in that regard is well known and understood, the warning Iran delivered to the US through the existing official channels (Swiss embassy) doesn't need to be spelled out in more detail. That warning stated that any action against Iran will be met with an immediate response and would not focus merely on the source of the action.

 

Actually no.. Everyone loses. Millions will die and be set back 200 years. Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen are small potatoes by comparison.

 

There is no need for a war with Iran being a massive land and air conflict. The U.S. can simply and relatively easily blockade the Iranian coast. The Iranians don't have remotely the naval and air strength to break a U.S. blockade (neither does the rest of the world combined but that's a different story). The Iranian economy (and a bunch of Iranians) would inevitably die, U.S. losses would be minimal at worst. And the Iranians would be denied the propaganda of the U.S. putting troops on their soil.

 

Well, then more Iranians will die. Plain and simple.

 

Everyone in civilized world will win when Iranians and saudis kill each other as much as possible.
I’ll take a double price of gasoline for the next few years for this to happen.

 

Attacking the US assets in response to another country attacking yours will just give the POTUS enough justification to do real war in your country.

Your choice! You will be heavily bombed, live without civilization, have your family be at the mercy of local warlords while my life won’t change a bit (maybe, again maybe, my gasoline prices will rise, which is still a maybe because in Chicago and Midwest we buy from Canada, not some shithole countries).

 

How naive .....

 

LOLOL.. You think Canadian producers are going to sell petroleum cheaper than OPEC or Brent or WTI? You do know that the oil business is a for profit business, don't you?

 

It’s not naive. They need to fight it off.
I have the same opinion about entire African continent - all borders should be erased and they should fight each other and redraw the borders where they stop.

Middle East and Africa won’t see real peace till this happens.

 

What is the most compelling reason to believe known liars like Pompeo?

 

Yes I do, but ease of delivery matters too.
We have pipelines here. Canada won’t benefit much from that war - Russia will, as they do have good means of delivery to Europe and China.

Logistics matter.

 

No reason.
We should just tell SA to attack Iran and watch the show.

 

You may or not be safe. Iran will attempt catastrophic damage to US and Israel workers/military in the region hoping that will cause the citizens of US Israel to demand a cease fire.

Both of your countries are used to mass killing of others but not that happening to your own.

Any country which can secretly blow up half of Saudi Arabia's oil fields without anyone noticing is not a country to mess with. They have had decades to plan for this.

 

Oh please. We're talking about the Saudis. even with the best U.S. weapons billions can buy the Saudis are still a joke militarily.