Iran Has Nuclear Bomb, Says Top Russian General

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  1. Bishadi

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    what's a jew hater?

    No one on this thread is talking about 'jews'.

    and now muslims?!?!?

    dude, GTFU.

    This thread is not about a religious divide.

    are you a dumb bigot?

    This thread is about how a Russian General told the press, that Iran already has nukes.

    :hmm:


    If it bugs to you comprehend that if israel attacks iran, that it will be nuked, then just say it.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not know if Russia or China directly sold Iran/Syria nukes, but someone has the nuclear material that went missing after the Soviet Break-up. It was never found nor recovered.

    Iran is on the Border of Russia. Both Iran and Syria have the money and will to buy the missing material.

    It would not suprise me if one of these two, or possibly both, are in possession of the missing material.

    Making a bomb out of that material is not that difficult and we know that Iran was consulting with the same fellow that helped Pakistan build the bomb.
     
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    And Russia is somehow the Soviet Union? (*)(*)(*)(*)...no wonder you are so screwed up!
     
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    dude, get a life

    Your rant is like claiming the USA is not america

    and there is a north and south america.
     
  5. Bishadi

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    about time someone besides the bigots began comprehending what 'could be'
    agreed

    makes sense

    and perhaps why, they know better than starting a war with either


    another good point
     
  6. ObamaYoMoma

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    Yeah right...this is the genius who doesn't know the difference between the USSR and Russia.

    Uhm...I hate to rain on your unhinged parade, but Islam is not a religion. The word Islam in Arabic means “submission” and the word Muslim in Arabic means “one who submits.” Indeed, Islam first and foremost requires all adherents to totally, completely, and unconditionally submit to the will of Allah, where the freedom of conscience is forbidden and where blasphemy and apostasy are capital offenses.

    Therefore, name all the faith-based religions in the world that similarly forbid the freedom of conscience and likewise make blasphemy and apostasy capital offenses. Of course, the answer is none of them, which irrefutably proves that Islam is not a faith-based religion.

    Islam is a supremacist theo-political totalitarian ideology that masquerades as being a religion to dupe the gullible societies it intends to subjugate into a very draconian form of Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme.

    As a matter of fact, Islam is far closer to Communism than it is to being a religion, as exactly like Communism, Islam seeks world domination, and the end result of Islam, exactly like Communism, is totalitarianism and lots and lots of misery.

    Furthermore, if you study the evolution of Islam, you will learn that although Islam initially started out as being a religion, subsequent to the Hijra, when Muhammad was cast out of Mecca and forced to migrate to Medina in 622 CE, Muhammad abandoned religion and turned to jihad, politics, and conquest and in the process morphed Islam into something else entirely different from religion altogether and into what it is today, which again is a supremacist theo-political totalitarian ideology, and it was this transformation of Islam from the realm of religion to the realms of jihad, politics, and conquest that finally set the stage for Islam to once and for all become very successful after 13 previous years of nothing but very dismal failure.

    In fact, had Islam remained a religion, like it was initially before the Hijra and shortly thereafter, Islam would have died out in the deserts of Arabia with the death of Muhammad and no one today would have ever heard of Islam and Muhammad.

    Furthermore, per the doctrine of abrogation, which also couldn’t be more mainstream within Islam as it is taught and advocated by all schools of Islamic jurisprudence within Islam and universally accepted by all sects and divisions within both Sunni and Shi’a Islam, when verses of the Koran come into conflict with each other because they contradict one another, the latter issued verses of the Koran abrogate, i.e. supersede and replace, the earlier issued verses. Thus, all the earlier peaceful verses of the Koran, which includes all the verses that originated from before the Hijra and shortly thereafter when Islam was only a religion, have all been abrogated by the latter issued verses of the Koran they conflict with and that command all Muslims to wage jihad against unbelievers for the spread of Islam.

    Therefore, not only did Muhammad morph Islam into something else entirely different from religion altogether when he turned to jihad, politics, and conquest subsequent to the Hijra, but also all of the earlier peaceful verses of the Koran that originate from the time when Islam was a religion, and the same ones the Muslims love to cite today to dupe gullible useful idiots, have all been abrogated and thus no longer apply.

    Lastly, the sixth and most important pillar of Islam, Jihad, which is holy fighting in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme, is an obligatory duty for every Muslim on earth. No exceptions.

    Therefore, ALL MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS ON EARTH are jihadists. A tiny minority of them are violent jihadists, while the vast overwhelming majority of them are non-violent jihadists, and the few that are not jihadists are not Muslims at all, but instead blasphemous apostates that per the dictates of MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX ISLAM must be executed.

    Indeed, how many other faith-based religions have a similar pillar to the sixth and most pillar of Islam? None of them. It also makes Islam incompatible with all non-Muslim unbelievers in the world as well.

    Hence, you are right, this thread is not about a religious divide since Islam is not a (*)(*)(*)(*) religion. However, to ignore Iran's motivations and what is driving Iran is insane, and that is a direct result of your intense obsession with Jew hatred. You focus only on fomenting another genocide of Jews to the exclusion of everything else. Thus if anyone is a bigot and a few other things having to do with extreme gullibility, enormous ignorance, and mind boggling naivety, go look in the mirror.
     
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    Islam is not a Religion ? Absurd.

    That religion gets involved with politics is nothing new.

    How do you define religion such that Islam does not fit ?
     
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    Get a brain!

    This from the genius who doesn't know the difference between the USSR and Russia and is totally obsessed with fomenting the next mass genocidal holocaust of Jews!
     
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    Excuse me, but I definitively proved above that Islam is not a faith-based religion. Now prove me wrong. Islam is a supremacist theo-political totalitarian ideology that masquerades as being a religion to dupe the gullible societies it intends to subjugate into a very draconian form of Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme.

    Can you read?
     
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    Ad hom .. adnausium. It is quite common to hear folks refer to the Russia as the Soviet Union ... get over it.

    The fact that someone does is not evidence for anything other than a mental slip .. same as making a typo.
     
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    Good for Iran (not that I believe it).

    Now maybe Israel won't act like such total jerks all the time now that their Middle Eastern nuclear monopoly is over.


    Will Iran ever launch it or (yuk yuk) sell it?

    Not if no one launches one at them first...unless all the Iranian leaders acquire a death wish.


    I would rather neither Israel OR Iran had nukes...but if one does, it's probably better that both do.
     
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    Only the uneducated or the ignorant ones. Russia and Soviet Union have nothing in common.
     
  13. DA60

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    Ummmm....nothing?

    Language, mostly the same people, mostly the same territory, and so on....

    There are huge differences...but hardly 'nothing' in common.
     
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    Obamayomama is certifiably crazy.

    I live on the doorstep of the worlds largest Muslim nation - Indonesia. I've travelled there for Thirty odd years without seeing a single Jihadist and so have hundreds of thousands of other Australians. Good beer, nice friendly, happy people.


    Oh, and "Iran Press Service" is not a credible source.
     
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    Except for when they are not hacking to death Christians, Ahmadis, and other non-Muslim unbelievers.

    If it is true that you've traveled to Indonesia, then you've seen thousands of Jihadists, but you are too dumb to know it. Indeed, there is a big difference from being called crazy by someone who is crazy and someone who isn't crazy, and if you believe Islam is a peaceful religion being hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists, then I'm afraid you are the one that is certifiably crazy and more than just a little myopic on top of it.

    For instance, if you count the disputed territories in Israel, there are 57 Islamic states in the world, how many of those 57 Islamic countries do not violently oppress and systematically persecute when not slaughtering them outright altogether the Christians and all other non-Muslim unbelievers that live in those Islamic totalitarian hellholes as less than second-class dhimmi citizens?
     
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    Old enough to know that Russia did not break up, the Soviet Union did. Ignoramuses with access to the internet are the best free entertainment ever. ;)
     
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    ANYONE with an education knows that you shouldn't refer to Russia when talking about the Soviet Union. If you were talking about the Soviet Union in a paper and you called it Russia the teacher would rip your paper apart. The Soviet Union was/is not Russia. Don't even argue this because you are wrong.

    Also, I don't believe that they have the nukes yet but they do have a program that is working on building them. I don't see the point of this thread expect that it's another thread for the racists to have their fun.
     
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    wow.....

    do you wear a helmit when you walk?

    May i ask if 'jews' are a separate race of mankind to you?

    And did 'god' give them the egyptian land called canaan?

    Exodus 32:27 and he saith to them, `Thus said Jehovah, God of Israel, Put each his sword by his thigh, pass over and turn back from gate to gate through the camp, and slay each his brother, and each his friend, and each his relation.'

    28 And the sons of Levi do according to the word of Moses, and there fall of the people on that day about three thousand men

    they built a golden calf and 3 k were killed; what's that called?

    what religion?
    I dont exclude anyone. i could care less what you believe or your religion.

    I am for equality rather than just focused on one sect. I have ascertained that the three (horns) will be wiped off the map soon enough!

    I am just pissed as the sissies of sissyrael, because they are the bigots that will be the cause of starting ww3 and this time around it will be nuclear.

    Dont be mad at me. Check yourself, as it is people like you that feed the trolls to be, just like you!

    Go put your helmit on before you hurt yourself any further!
     
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    i can see that

    my same experience with muslims, for the most part

    I cant comprehend the dirt kissing but i cant comprehend chanting, breaking a shot glass or even tithing, either

    heck, cnn, bbc and the majority of them aint
     
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    i am leaving it open

    but if israel attacks iran, i hope they do
    i agree. The oppression has gone way overboard

    i wish no one would EVER!
    muslims, by nature are peaceful

    what they do not accept is irresponsibility
    i agree.

    does israel have nukes, yet?:shock:
     
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    Understood but this is not the point. Just because someone misuses a term in one subject matter area does not mean they are ignorant in other areas.
     
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    Officially, Israel neither confirms nor denies they have nukes.

    But it is common knowledge they do...and hundreds of IRBM's (Intermediate range ballistic missiles) to launch them.
     
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    Islam fits. Muslim society is both political and socially more based in religion than Western.

    Your argument makes no sense. All religions by en large could be claimed to dupe gullible societies in to various forms of subjugation and adoption of draconian positions.

    This has nothing to do with the fact that those who are part of Islam claim their actions are based on a believe in God.
     
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    so the sissies dont have to be responsible to anyone and iran is being sanctioned for wanting anything nuclear?

    That is almost as bad as zionist terrorize the middle east for decades and the irgun terrorist Emmanual, had a son in the white house but it would be OK for osama bin ladens drivers dog to be water boarded?

    I mean, israel sustains a 1.6 million soul concentration camp; blockade and completely isolate the widows and children from the world but no one has a right to say anything, without being called anti semitic

    dont forget, they are currently stealing lands from the palestinians and threatening to push all muslim arabs into the ocean.


    geeze they are such sweethearts, with curlers in their hair!
     
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    The west is as much religious is as the middle east. Especially when use forums like this with bible thumbing christians escaping from the religion part of this forum to rampage over the topics.
     

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