Iran plane downing: Person who filmed video 'arrested'

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  1. US Conservative

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    Why yes. Yes I do.
     
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    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump creates leakers. See General Soleimani, he's leaking.
     
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    yes, Trump doesn't believe in the constitution and never consulted Congress, we know, any issue with Iran are now Trump's creation
     
  4. Adfundum

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    What am I missing here? How did that guy just happen to have his phone out and record that attack? Was it a stroke of luck? Was he involved in the incident?
     
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    Meanwhile, back in reality, it's something Obama did and Trump has never done.
     
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    Yeah like when we attacked that Iranian embassy again.
     
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    ...exists in the left's imaginations.
     
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    LOL, Avenatti did himself in. Of course you defend crooks.

    Also you have no problem with the Obama admin spying on Trump trying to take him down. You are a hypocrite.
     
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    what are you talking about, Obama never jailed a whitle-blower, both arrested leakers of classified info
     
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    Amazing.
     
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    See post 61.
     
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    It would only count if this guy didn’t actually shoot the video but said he heard from another guy that they saw a video of the plane being shot down. Cmon, at least be semi accurate with the comparisons :)
     
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    Ah...Thanks.

    Ok, I just watched the video showing two missile strikes. The person is recording before the first missile is fired. Now I'm even more curious.

    Watched it again. Someone recorded it from a monitor--possibly from a security camera.
     
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    LOL, Obama had a swat team arrest a whistleblower.
     
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    Typical Israeli propaganda.

    Name another town after trump.
     
  16. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Would the troops have been killed and injured if we hadn't invaded other people's countries to kill them and destroy their infrastructure? If another country invaded the US and caused as much death and destruction here would you be a terrorist if you attacked its troops?
     
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    link, no such thing happened

    leakers are arrested, not whistle blowers, big difference, Trump had leakers arrested too
     
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    Trump would go after the guy anyways, just snitching on Trump is enough to get his blood rolling
     
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    Remember when Obama was droning people left and right and Democrats were totally supporting it?

    Now they are sad an American killing Iranian general is dead...
     
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    While I am loathe to prejudge any case, and in fact don't want to judge a case without being privy to the facts, what you mention along with some other things points to suspicions about this guy.

    You basically either had someone apparently just filming the sky in the early morning (before 6 a.m.) in Tehran and suddenly caught a missile hitting a plane in exactly the location he was filming. And then end up, by an unexplained coincidence, to give the video to an Iranian individual living in exile involved in anti-regime activities, who in turn shared the video with the NYT. Or there is something suspicious about the whole thing.
     
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    Which whistleblower(s) has he arrested?
     
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    terrorists that we were at war with, not a foreign governments officials.... big difference
     
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    he threatened it, he doesn't know who the whistle blower is yet, he threatened to have the people he got info from executed

     
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    It probably had to do with the extremely loud explosion caused by the first missile .....apparently at least one Iranian with half a brain decided to see what all the fuss was about and heard the plane, then decided to run the video. It was only by chance your incompetent military shot a second missile at a civilian plane.
     
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    Everything you said is baseless. First, the TOR missile automatically fires a 2nd missile if the first one doesn't take out a target. Second, the full video was taken even before the first missile was fired. Third, even if none of that was true, people hearing an explosion aren't going to easily find the path of a missile hitting a plane.

    Anyway, there is accumulating evidence that this tragedy was part of something more sinister. While Iran's commanders had already alluded to communications between Iran's air defense operators and others being 'interrupted' and mentioned it might have been due to electronic warfare and jamming, that issue is now being officially investigated as a major part of the puzzle. A theory that has gained a lot of credence in recent days is that this particular air defense unit, employing Russian made systems whose codes are more easily accessible to the Israelis, was compromised and subjected to cyber warfare, electronic countermeasures or such other things. And that it was expected those moves would cause an incident such as the one that took place, with agents on the ground tasked to film the incident to use it in the manner that it has been used so far.

    I am not going to pass judgment on this 'theory', but certainly want to see it investigated completely.
     
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