Iran vows to avenge Scientist's assasination

3 pro-Iran military experts killed in air strike in Syria – Middle East Monitor

 

With respect to Morocco's 'normalisation' with Israel here is an interesting article which explains the ways in which they have been working for decades - including at least one time Mossad helping them in a killing.

Interestingly I thought it was the US who had tempted them with West Sahara but it was the Moroccan's who asked Israel to suggest this to Trump.

Another interesting point.

and this came in return for Israel's help in the above killing.

It’s ironic that the head of Al-Quds Committee has normalised links with Jerusalem’s occupier – Middle East Monitor

Oh and Bhutan, with its one million people have normalised relations with Israel.

Israel establishes 'formal diplomatic relations' with Bhutan | Middle East Eye

There are also suggestions that the Palestinians and the people of Western Sahara get together and form an alliance. Apparently many activists have been wanting this for years, seeing their situation as very similar.

 

Iran is now sewing mines in the Red Sea through their Houthi allies, if there was ever a justification for supporting the anti-Houthis in Yemen, there you have it.

Mine explodes, damaging oil tanker off Saudi Arabia (apnews.com)

 

No one knows how many civilians particularly children have been killed by the KSA war against the people of Yemen supported by the US and UK but over a year ago people were talking about a Genocide. You believe them fighting back is a reason for genocide and terrorist killings?

The relationship between Iran and the Houthies is interesting. When the US were bombing and droning Yemen, the then President, Saleh, told the US that the Houthis were working with Iran and asked them to bomb and drone them as well. The CIA looked into it and said it simply was not true and declined to kill them. As the killing against the people of Yemen got going, and civilian structures were heavily hit including water detamination works when they were facing a Cholera epicedimic, Iran gave some help but it was never the kind of collusion that the media then spread. The Houthis did what they wanted not what Iran suggested, for instance they took over Sanna against the advice of Iran but bit by bit as the war against both got going they started to work together which they have been doing for some time now. There was not any proxy war as the Western media portrayed it but when the people of Yemen came under outside attack, Iran did offer them more support and bit by bit it has become a collusion - not Yemen being a Proxy but both helping each other as best they can. To be frank your report does not even give any evidence they did anything but you still believe that supports genocide and terrorist killings.

Yemen | genocidewatch

 

What genocide? Stopping the Iranian theocratic dictatorship from turning Yemen into another puppet state like Lebanon giving them the ability to not only close the Strait of Hormuz at will but also the Suez canal, allowing them to hold the world to ransom.

As for the Houthis;
Houthi movement - Wikipedia

But I think they're motto says it all; "God is greater, death to America, Death to Israel, curse on the Jews, victory to Islam.
And anyone who quotes John Pilger is not to be taken seriously.

 

I don't understand what you are trying to do when you list a bunch of terrorists and exclude the Iranian proxies out of it, you don't see Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hizbi as terrorists - we do.
I also reject your compare between the support of Israel and Iran's to its proxies, you take advantage of the unknown and compare it in a heartbeat with the well established connection between Hizbi and Iran, they have the image of the Ayatola in their website - does ISIS wave the Israeli flag ? could Hizbi defeat ISIS and the rebels if they were under equipped? wouldn't Israel send its army to "protect" its interests as Iran does ? there is no compare between the two not in actions, in proxies, agenda, nothing at all.
Now back to the subject....Iran and Israel are at war, cold or tepid....its war, could of been different perhaps but it is what it is now.

EDIT: and one more thing, looking at the cradles, where terrorist ideology thrives, you say KSA ? why not France ? intent matters, what the regime actually does - matters.

 

Gilos there is a difference. You are taking away these people's homes, land and resources. Even by International law they have a right to try to stop you doing it but you kill far far more of them than they ever do of you.

It was recognised prior to 9/11 the difference. Netanyhu having said 9/11 was good, working with his supporters in the US worked to label Hamas the same as Al Qaeda and later ISIS. (that is an educated guess but this is what happened after 9/11)

Hamas is fighting for the survival of their land and to get rid of the oppression and on going attacks they have known for over 50 years. ISIS types are who Israel supports to try and take over Syria and to kill those there fighting ISIS types.

Israel supports the most extremist Muslims and kills the people who are fighting them and Israel's civilians have shut their eyes.

It is just playing with words to justify killing. KSA has started calling anyone who does anything she does not like a terrorist. The name no longer has a meaning.

 

Hamas are the tyrants and dictators of Gaza !
The disgusting bastards hide weapons under civilian houses, instead of building playgrounds with the Billions that the world donate to the Palestinians, they build terror tunnels

 

I give him credit for those agreements which were his doing, after all he pushed us on warpath with Iran and that's why we have peace

I disagree, both Hamas and Hizbi have much more to their agenda than resistance to Israel, both of them were against Oslo, Hamas actually fought against it - by bombing busses as Israel retreated, I refuse to call it "survival", it's hegemony fight over PLO's, Hizbullah are fighting over Lebanon control - Israel is an excuse, we didn't fight for what ? 10 years?
I also reject the accusation that Israel supports extreme Muslims...its another Muslim legend against Israel to try and make sense of the implosion they went thru, Israel supported some refugees at the Syrian border and bombed a few Assad posts - that's it, it's nothing close to Iran support of its proxies.
And by my approach it doesn't mean Iran is a ball of dark evil forces, I'm sure they see it as spreading the best of their revolution and and places most needed, it so happens that they think - like some ppl here - that I need to "pack my things and sail to Europe" and I don't even like Europe......

 

Now you are just talking rubbish and building a strawman. "Why you cry" "Why are you leaving Hamas/Hizbi out"

I didn't leave them out - and in fact refer to them as terrorist proxies. It is you who desperately wants to leave the Terrorist Proxies and terrorist activities of El Saud and Israel out of the equation.

It is not an "Unknown" - Perhaps unknown to you but it is no secret that Israel was on the side of the US in the war in Syria - providing aid and support for the "rebels"

Then you ask the laughable question "Does ISIS wave the Israeli Flag" - which is fallacious nonsense .. What difference does it make to the truth or falsehood of the claim that Israel was supporting the rebels. ZERO .. thats what.

Regardless - it matters not - as we do not need to rely on Israel's support of ISIS to show Israel is a purveyor of Terror - we need only look at the actions of Israel .. which are far greater than the terrorist actions of the Hamas/Hezbollah.

 

Yeah which proved nothing, the Houthis started a war and now they're suffering for their evil, their people brought this on themselves and are suffering like every people in war, don't believe the propaganda.

 

Who's "We" ?
You have a complete story in your head, a Global one..., you have no questions only answers, a few facts and mostly assumptions that fit your story, I belong to a side that acts upon only what is known, I wont pass judgment on things I do not know.
But as usual I like to read your stories, bad guys good guys, it's all...very American of you
It's a nice story man....I wont argue on things I do not know - you the one that Know's...

 

Is this your resignation letter ? - unfortunate.

 

Don't be sad there are many here like you that "know" things, I like to exchange ideas with ppl that can make logical assumptions on things none of us know, that could actually be educational, dogmatic ppl are less educational and more......fun, I try to take the best of everyone here.

 

Peace Through Strength.

THE SUBMARINES THAT WANTED TO BE SEEN: U.S. and Israeli Submarine Transits Of Suez, Hormuz Were Signal To Iran.

Helping Iran Avoid A Dangerous Miscalculation.
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An Israeli Dolphin submarine moves into the Red Sea from their homeport in Haifa on the Mediterranean coast in a rare move, heading for the Persian Gulf.

The Dolphin class can carry the Popeye sub-launched cruise missile, with a range similar to the U.S. Tomahawk and the potential for nuclear warheads.

Two days ago a U.S. Navy task group entered the Strait of Hormuz carrying 150+ Tomahawk missiles

The Peace Keeper Package

The USS Port Royal is an upgraded ballistic missile defense (BMD) ship, and both cruisers are multidimensional, state-of-the-art air-defense platforms. USS Georgia is kitted out to support over 60 SEAL operators at a time.

Georgia transited the Strait of Hormuz on the surface, US Navy aircraft took pictures and they were promptly posted, sending a crystal clear signal that should boost the IQ of even the most foolhardy.