Is Alberta probably going to separate from Canada?

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Is Alberta probably going to separate from Canada?

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am from Nova Scotia and I have never travelled west of Mississauga, Ontario but I am convinced that the province of Alberta has gotten such a terrible deal from being a part of Canada that I do sympathize with their movement to form a separate nation and basically divorce Canada politically!

    I am a janitor at a school..... I am no expert on politics or economics or much of anything else but I read a lot and the best theory that I have ran into so far is that Russia and China are so interested in the THIRTY FIVE TRILLION dollars worth of oil and natural gas reserves in the WARMING Arctic that they seem to be going all out to knock out the USA as the world's leading military superpower...... by going after the USA petrodollar........ (because if they can bankrupt the USA then the USA would not be able to keep spending so much on their military).....
    the DOLLAR does seem to be vulnerable at this time due to the 117 TRILLION USA petrodollars in the DERIVATIVES market??????!

    My brother is reading about how Russia managed to so effectively spy on America during the cold war that within a few years after America tested an A-bomb..... .they had pretty much an exact duplicate!

    My point is that Russia and China tend to invest in competent and effective spies...... and it sure seems to me like George Soros and his buddies have been doing an effective job of setting up an economic attack on the USA..... but Alberta has been hit hard in the cross fire!

    To what degree are supposedly Green organizations being used to....

    ....get at the thirty five TRILLION dollars worth of oil and natural gas reserves in the Arctic?

    Or to set the stage for the devaluation of the USA petro - dollar which is in some danger due to the 4.3 trillion USA petro - dollars in the hands of China, George Soros, Iran, Europe and Russia?




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    Russia and China vie to beat the US in the trillion-dollar race to control the Arctic


    Russia and China know that the weakness in the USA petro - dollar could be their key to taking the USA out as the world's leading military superpower so.......
    they have good reason to finance supposedly Green efforts to stop pipelines which can mess up the USA and Canadian economy.

    I actually voted for Green Party leader Ms. Elizabeth May in our 2008 Canadian federal election when she ran in my area Central - Nova and I did later on apologize to her for my ignorance as to the effect that atmospheric carbon dioxide can have on Ocean Acidification but......... it is obvious that Russia and China are after those 35 TRILLION dollars worth of oil and natural gas reserves up north and of course therefore are interested in taking advantage of the weaknesses that Wall Street and the Federal Reserve have given to the USA petro - dollar.

    (Or at the 117 TRILLION dollars worth of Derivatives mentioned by Mr. Jim Rickards in this interview)?

    FORGET IRAN, IRAQ, UKRAINE
    THIS IS WHERE WWIII STARTS...








    And wow... but did I ever just find some interesting information related to the full situation in Alberta!

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    https://www.facebook.com/hamish.hopkins.7/posts/10156574214280487

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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would like to apologize to all residents of Alberta for being under-informed about the fact that your oil........
    is obviously the WORLD'S MOST ETHICAL OIL..... You are cleaning up natural pollution in your soil.......
    and in many cases in your rivers and lakes as well........
    and I was IGNORANT of this until a month or so ago!

    I don't like finding out that I was terribly under-informed..... so the least that I can do is apologize when I do finally clue as to what was really happening.
     
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    I do have a theory though on how Alberta may be able to recover every penny of the 430 billion that you invested in my province Nova Scotia, and in all of Canada since 1957.

    President Donald J. Trump is obviously trying his very best to improve life for Americans..... and it seems to me that the Canadian province of Alberta.... .and all of western Canada...... is in a position to assist President Trump in such a way that could give you the leverage that you need to FORCE OTTAWA into real reforms?!

    For starters I highly recommend listening to Mr. Frank Vaughan's commentary on President Trump's State of the Union address......... I agree with essentially every major point made by Frank on this and apparently so do many of the posters on this forum:



    State of the Union 2019 by Frank Vaughan.



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    I already listened to President Trump's State of the Union Address three times.... and may do so again...... because there are 35 trillion, plus 117 trillion plus 4.3 trillion USA petrodollars on the line here and I really do think that western Canada led by Alberta could not possibly greatly assist President Trump and the USA with these issues without being greatly rewarded for your assistance in this serious matter?!

     
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    I have three numbers in mind for you that could well inspire your various independence parties to come together. 35 trillion USA petrodollars, (the estimated value of oil and natural gas reserves in the warming Arctic)..... 117 trillion USA petrodollars, (the number given by CIA economist Jim Rickards back in 2014 for the number of USA petrodollars in the vulnerable DERIVATIVES market) and...... 4.3 trillion... the number of USA petrodollars in cash in the hands of China, Iran, George Soros, Russia and European buddies who seem to be planning devaluation of the dollar........ )which could drive the entire world economy into PESSIMISM... which could set in motion something far, far, far, far worse than 2008?!)

    Former Atheist Howard Storm was warned about this back in 1985 by the being of light of near death experience fame!

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04

    Maybe..... .just maybe..... concern over rising ocean levels and an alternative theory on stabilization of the climate could be the key to convincing young and naive Canadians that Al Gore's / P. M. Justin Trudeau Carbon Tax is NOT the only..........
    or even the best possible way to stabilize the climate.


    Here is my theory on how to invest a paltry ONE TRILLION USA petrodollars in a way that I am thinking would be win - win - win - win - win for 99.9% of humanity?!

    M. P. Bill Casey... President Trump has a 4.3 trillion dollar problem....


    All of this is based on the alternative theory on climate stabilization put forward by New Mexico biologist and coach Mr. Carl Cantrell that I think I first read back in 2006:



    Two effective methods to combat global warming and simultaneously fight rising ocean levels have been proposed by New Mexico biologist Carl Cantrell.
    Every cubic meter of ocean water that is desalinated and added to the water table of Israel, Jordan, Australia, California, Mexico, Qatar, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia, India or any other nation with arid land in need of fresh water..... is good news for residents of the eastern area of the Bay of Fundy where the world's highest tides are experienced.




    If average ocean levels rose by eight to ten cms (3 or 4 inches) could high tide...

    ... rise by one meter in the Isthmus of Chignecto in Nova Scotia, Canada?
    This question is logical because the geography of Canada's Bay of Fundy produces the world's highest tides. In my part of Nova Scotia in Guysborough County there is very little funnelling of tidal waters......... so high tide is only about one to one point five meters above low tide.

    In the eastern area of the Bay of Fundy high tide levels are up by ten to fifteen meters.

     
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    Alberta has a good case for separation.....but it's landlocked province just like Saskatchewan, where iiIhave some property!

    Alberta has been bent over by Ottawa without the vaselineVfor some time, and in truth has been "paying the bills" when oil was peaking...$100+ per barrel oil.

    Youve got the Rockefellers and Koch Bros involved in the tar sands.....that's why Alberta cantcaget a pipeline to tidewater!;))
     
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    Theoretically....... Alberta could work out a deal (series of treaties), with President Donald J. Trump that............. if not agreed to by Ottawa...... would lead to Alberta separating from Canada. I think that this means that Ottawa would have no choice but to sign whatever treaties Alberta and the USA were to agree to........

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...theory-of-m-w-p.548225/page-3#post-1070251613


     
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    I also watched the SOTU, very pleased with the whole thing, even though I didn't want Trump to enter that room at all. After the Nancy drama, he should have given the speech at a venue where everyday hard working real Americans could attend.

    Alberta won't separate, don't get me wrong, I love the USA and my adopted mom was born in Nebraska, but I would never opt to live in a republic.
    Alberta does great when it has a leader that knows how to fight Ottawa, Jason Kenny will be our new leader, so watch out eastern Canada.
     
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    I sure hope that you are right because the sentiment to separate from Canada is high at this time.

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    AB&SK are both landlocked....how do you trade? You need port or tidewater, Van& Rupert come to mind.....Port of Churchill MB is only good for 3 months of the year.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just saw a meme that I had to repost so that I could easily find this again......
    this is hilarious.... and actually quite catchy......

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    "Vote Conservtive
    This time it's
    the lesser evil
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    Assisting President Trump to make an exceptionally attractive offer to Denmark for the purchase of Greenland..... or at least an agreement with Denmark regarding Greenland......
    could turn out to be the best way to defeat the silly Carbon Tax.....
    get Canada back onto an intelligent central banking system such as we had from 1938 to 1974......
    and address the valid grievances that the province of Alberta has with Ottawa and the rest of Canada that collaborate with Ottawa regarding less than necessary transfer payments from Alberta to several of the other Canadians provinces?

    This is interesting and informative of how Ottawa manipulates Canadians through the media:

    Dave Bjorkman
    September 20 at 10:32 PM

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49763168
     
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    I highly highly recommend taking the time to listen to Mr. Billy Joyce's first ever political speech!

    Billy Joyce


    My very first speech as a Political Candidate!! I need some polishing! LOL
     
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    Kenny Blacksmith
    Chief Kenny Blacksmith...... Sir..... I have something of a challenge for you that I believe was given to me by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus since 1990 when i prayed with chutzpah and asked for wisdom....... I term it "Unified Field Theory of Modern World Problems."

    Basically Isaiah chapter thirty five gives humanity an alternative way to stabilize the climate that actually would address the potentially serious problem of rising ocean levels. I feel that western Canada can take a leadership role in getting this idea out there to the world and President Donald J. Trump bringing up the idea of the USA purchasing Greenland is a good place to take this idea to another level.

    I believe that it was Messiah Yeshua - Jesus who led me to the ideas of New Mexico biologist and coach Mr. Carl Cantrell:
    Global Warming II by Carl Cantrell
    Mr. Al Muir's article on the situation faced at Boat Harbour may be an excellent place to begin discussions:

    Al Muir:
     
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    One way would be a treaty with the USA that would put pipelines to the Pacific..... in USA territory.

    President Trump's ideas regarding Greenland could be one way to make that happen.
     
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    If it's in US territory.....they'll take all the profits.
     
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    But at least Alberta will be able to sell their oil!



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