Is America a democracy? I dont think so.

I disagree. Blair alone was responsible for the British catastrophe in Iraq and Afghanistan. That much is now clear. Anything else is simply a rhetorical flourish.

On the Taliban and AQ what do you think was the underlying reason Blair took us there? What was the purpose? What was the national interest?

 

And Cameron alone was almost responsible for a British catastrophe in Syria. We'd be stuck there right now, and how many bodybags would have come home, if he'd had his way. Career politicians eh?

 

Don't lump me together with other posters views and posts. It's dishonest.

The fact that you see the use of ISIS and AQ by the US and NATO nations to overthrow Syria's Assad as "conspiracy theory nonsense" tells us the extremely limited and uninformed level of your grasp of the subject. Clearly you are not at all widely read on foreign affairs matters and yet still feel able to pronounce as though you were an expert. Mmmm.

Anyway, I have posted a great deal of links and news stories previously on this forum showing that the US and Europeans set out to regime change Syria's Assad - on behalf of Israel as France's former foreign secretary Roland Dumas makes abundantly clear.

The below testify to this and are just some articles/documents that show how ISIS and AQ were slotted into this US / European covert plan.

https://levantreport.com/2015/05/19...-state-in-order-to-isolate-the-syrian-regime/





https://www.infowars.com/dia-docs-west-wants-a-salafist-principality-in-eastern-syria/

https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.co...dia-islamic-state-memo-what-trump-gets-right/

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49714.htm

https://horseedmedia.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Weapons-of-the-Islamic-State.pdf

https://dimpenews.com/2018/03/23/br...red-american-and-european-officers-in-ghouta/

 

The problem is Cerb that our Prime Ministers hitherto (since WWII anyway) answer to Washington in foreign policy matters and the EU in most other domestic matters.

If Brexit is blocked, my solution is to agitate to get rid of Parliament altogether as it will be unnecessary and simply a duplicate administration of Brussels. What good are 600 plus costly, arrogant, mouthy, trouser-pocketing corrupt tossers who do nothing other than rubber stamp the diktats of a foreign power and corporations.

Rant over.

 

If you want me to believe that Obama supported ISIS and al-Qaeda and any number of other extremist Muslim groups, I have no problem accepting that. He did, after all, transfer 400 million dollars to Iran on pallets. But to say the US supported ISIS and al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups would be wrong. Obama may have been president, but that was not US policy then or ever. If Obama had ever announced that was US policy or that he was engaged in such acts, he probably would have been impeached. And the suggestion that Obama ever did anything on behalf of Israel is utterly absurd on its face.

 

An absolutely valid point, SH, and one I've made myself a few times over the years - although not as eloquently as you do above. lol Waste of parliamentary space ain't they!!

(I hear they're gonna demolish Skripal's house 'because the roof rafters might be contaminated with Novichok', although don't ask me how a little bit smeared on a door-handle can find its way up to roof level? )

 

Man you guys are better than me

I have to ask.. Is the OP latest US and World News?? Did someone break the thread creation rules?

We is what we is.. Black Horse with White Stripes.. aka Zebra

Internet is creating new ways to govern,,

 

I'm not even going to bother to comment on this tripe. Sorry.

 

I had some tripe in posole for the first time the other day

So what do you think of Ultima Thule?? It looks like a snowman

Will there be democracy in space?? I have some serious concerns.. It depends if Elon Musk or the Donald's Space Farce build the first orbiting high rise



If I get popped for thread derailment I need a lawyer.. The OP should not be in this section

 

Vile it is too...

I thought the choice of that particular name was exceptionally interesting, given the Nazi scientists captured under Operation Paperclip ended up in NASA (HERE and HERE).

Will there be democracy in space?? I have some serious concerns.. It depends if Elon Musk or the Donald's Space Farce build the first orbiting high rise
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Doubt it. There's not much of that down here so why pristine space should become an exception I don't know...

 

So the fact that the U.S. is funding, creating, supporting, and supplying terrorist groups such as Al Qaida and ISIS is irrelevant to you. Your definition is ****ed.

Oh! I see! You mean that the fact the U.S. supports these groups - while it is "in power" - proves that Al Qaida and ISIS cannot be terrorist organizations. Yeah, that makes lots of sense.

 

Prisitine?????

we are rapidly trashing it

if enough collisions happen we won't be able to get off

Saw an astronaut decribe the instant appearance of a hole in the solar panel.. Shyt pings off the space station all the time

 

No NATO does not make much sense to me

No government at all is worse.. We are closed damn it!!!

Folks can't get EIN Numbers.. A New Mexico Brewer has lost 10-30K of sales to Arizona and Colorado because of some federal shutdown effect

This is dumb.. It is Trumps fault.. He is whining lying crybaby.

 

You see now, NATO is a Mafia organization run by the U.S. All of the features of organized crime are present in NATO. Extortion, for example. Have you never wondered why the U.S. has been turning the screws on Castro for crushing the American mafia in Cuba? Have you ever asked yourself what the Cuban Revolution was all about?

 

Sub lunary space is hardly the entire Cosmos, even if we include the space junk we've sent further afield, so yep "pristine space" seems to right definition to me.

 

Yeah, that's the Queens call.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Action_Against_Iraq_(Parliamentary_Approval)_Bill

 

You speak as though we were the only country involved? We struck against the Taliban and AQ because they were a direct threat and we didn't want any more 9/11 style attacks.

 

Brilliant !

A wonderful analysis as to why I am WRONG about my allegation that the United States
is a Plutocracy run by rich Psychopaths. And you then immediately proceed to instruct
us on the circumstances that would necessarily evolve if indeed the United States was
.................................................................................................... a Plutocracy

Then you inform us: - ( a couple of posts down) -

Brilliant !
I'm WRONG in saying it is a Plutocracy, while you're RIGHT in saying it is a Plutocracy
That's an interesting debate technique. It is after all impossible for me to prevail when
confronted with such an astute logic - DidJaa learn that doing a HyU political science major ?


an aside:
One thing you should realize about the present Plutocracy that is running your country.
.................................................It is NOT Yet monolithic

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America is a democracy.

Representative Democracy is a form of democracy, as is Direct Democracy.

 

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Who's definition - It must be nice to simply redefine the crimes one is guilty of


What a pile of unmitigated Blubbery ! - Sounds like the sort of salacious screed that some dirty
......bottom feeding Lawyer would attempt to use in trying to White Wash the bloody sepulcher
............................................................................of his clients victims, in a flood of Legalese

My advice to you "Mr Smith"- is to keep it simple. - Webster defin:
Literacy 101 says
ter-ror-ism: the systematic use of terror esp. as a means of coercion.

Or we can forego Websters and go with Peter Ustinov's defin:
“War is the terrorism of the rich... Terrorism is the war of the poor.”
.............................................................................( Both are seen as Terrorism )


Terrorism is the a purposed infliction of TERROR upon your victim. --
eg. Depriving people of life's necessities through Sanctions, or the imposing
of "Collective Punishments", or purposely bombing civilians and their
infrastructure, can all clearly be seen as acts of Terror .no matter who
............................................ these EVIL policies are being enacted by.

Ask these victims if they did not experience & suffer from Terrorism ?
Pakistan drone Victims .........................Palestinian sniper Victims



Now the only way you can wash that sort of Blood off of yoiur hands
is to plunge them into sulfuric acid and then do severe Penance -



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https://mondoweiss.net/2011/12/we-p...o-for-sabra-and-shatila-massacre-anniversary/

The information regarding the photograph in question is set forth below and can be accessed at worldpressphoto.org in their 1983 photo archive.

• Year 1983
• Photographer Mustafa Bozdemir
• Nationality Turkey
• Organization / Publication Hürriyet Gazetesi
• Category World Press Photo of the Year
• Prize World Press Photo of the Year
• Date 30-10-1983
• Country Turkey
• Place Koyunoren
• Caption Kezban Özer (37) finds her five children buried alive after a devastating earthquake. At five o’clock in the morning she and her husband were milking the cows as their children slept. A few minutes later, 147 villages in the region were destroyed by an earthquake of magnitude 7.1 on the Richter scale; 1,336 people died.

 

And wrong again.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/171911348/

Anonymous ID:SsL6BFRQ Thu 17 May 2018 04:22:19 No.171914613 Report
Quoted By: >>171914768 >>171916089 >>171918474 >>171920582 >>171920590 >>171927414 >>171930350 >>171935412 >>171935806 >>171939003
>>171911348
FALSE FLAAAAAAAAG THREAD
OKAY YOU ****ING RETARD OP AND ANONS ITT

Here's the truth

That pic is from Pakistan after muslims bombed a bunch of Christian Pakistanis at an easter event
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Lahore_suicide_bombing
>75 people killed
>over 340 injured

OH YEA, PIC RELATED IS A CHRISTIAN PAKISTANI CRYING OVER HIS DEAD SON THAT GOT BOMBED AT A ****ING EASTER EVENT​

 

Okay - in case you are right on the origin of that photo I fixed it

The Point is US policies are guilty of committing commit this sort of Terror
Deny It ! in the face of the Fact - or - Deal With that Fact -

 

We aren't dealing in facts, but in myriad claims made online by biased parties and through fake news and disinformation and propaganda outlets.

 

We are not doing any such thing. What is wrong with you?