Is Democracy Anti-christian?

So God endorses the American system of government in 1776. What about other governments? Does God endorse the British Monarchy? Chinese communism?

 

I have no conformation that God did. He did inspire our Founding Fathers to write our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution. I'm sure communism does not fit for man's purpose on the earth.

 

Why didn’t he inspire China’s founding fathers?

 

Or do you mean that the Founding Fathers were inspired by the bible?

 

Because it was here in America that freedom of religion was going on and it was time for the Lord to restore His Church. This is the only place on earth that could and did happen. The great apostasy has ended.

 

So then it sounds like you do think that a lot of Christianity would be judged poorly. I imagine the end of the great apostasy meant the establishment of your church which now preserves the truth about Christ for everyone. Am I right?

 

Our highly devout Founding Fathers also believed that a democracy could only work with a Christian and devout population - and they were right. Look at the mess we're in now because of the spins, lies, propaganda, etc., that we've been fed these past years by our politicians and media.

Everyone has lost faith in the government, and no one knows what to believe anymore.

 

So it sounds like you would not agree that the US constitution was created as part of some plan by God.

 

They were inspired, but by a different god.

Hee, hee, hee!​

 

God works through people, and He worked through the Founding Fathers because they were devout and enlightened. But God does not control people, he gave everyone a free will. So the benefits our nation had when it was a Godly nation, doesn't mean it will continue - as we are seeing.

I weep for my country.


What we were once,
we've ceased to be,
for times have changed now,
can't you see?

The flag that once
waved high and true
is now all worn,
forlorn and blue.

It mourns for days
when we had pride
of noble words
and not of lies.- Jeannette

 

When was America a godly nation?

 

Exactly. The restoration and restitution of all things (ordinances, doctrines, commandments) that are for those ready for the higher law. It's all prophesied in the OT and NT. Starting with the organization of the Priesthood that was in Paul's days when the apostasy began (the priesthoods after the orders of Aaron (Levitical) and Melchizedek (the Son of God).

 

They have lost faith in Christ as well. They have given more authority to atheistic beliefs, Wokism and other unholy profiteers than to God. And, what a mess. Can't challenge school board members, teach children that we are created male and female, Capitalism is better than Socialism and so on.

 

So how did you conclude that god likes capitalism more than socialism?

 

I would say ultimately they're simply unrelated. Though given democracy's tendency to eventually subjugate the minority to the will of the majority in complete disregard for free will, democracy is not particularly compatible with Christianity. But then, government in general is diametrically opposed to free will, and most forms of it even more so than democracy...

 

YHWH is for Strict Sharia Theocracy -- The God of Jesus ... "The Most High" - "God of Abraham and Melchizedek" - a much nicer fellow .. all about liberty and justice - this one would not mind democracy ..

 

The US was a Godly nation when it gave freedom to its people, opened itself to immigration, and when our Churches used our immense wealth to establish schools, hospitals and orphanages all over the Near East, the Middle East, the Far East and Africa. It was also a Godly nation when Kennedy established the Peace Corp to help other nations develop themselves.

It ceased being a Godly nation when Kennedy was shot and prayers were removed from schools and Roe vs. Wade was voted in. Contrary to common belief, it was a racist move to limit the Black population and I recall Black speakers on Court street in Brooklyn telling their listeners to have as many children as possible because of it..

Pres. Johnson started the Vietnam war and we could go on from there.

Where did I go wrong?

THE NEW COLOSSUS
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"Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!"
cries she

With silent lips."Give me your tired, your poor.
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" - Emma Lazarus

 

Was it also a godly nation when it kept black people in the chains of slavery?

 

I believe in total freedom, and the smaller the government the more voice a person has within it, and therefore the more freedom they have. Maybe we should have city states? I like the Italian ones. Unlike the Greeks, they made sure their armies wouldn't bump into one another.

I can't see, where's the enemy?
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Yes, both the Yahweh-thing and the Jesus-thing are anti-democracy and pro-dictatorship.

That fails. You'll see why it does in a second here.

Buddhism is not a religion and x-tianity is clearly anti-democratic just as Judaism is.

Because no god-things exist.

....were deists who did not believe in your god-thing.

And, yet Poop Leo, the infallible Vicar of Christ on Earth, issued the papal bull Humanus Genus condemning all Americans to Hell for all Eternity for having the audacity to elect their leaders instead of having the Poop choose their leaders for them.

Since you're going to Hell, we would like to know of all the people in Hell, who would you like to bunk with?

Oh, wait....that assumes you get a bunk in Hell. Okay, so, of all the people in Hell, who would you like to be chained next to?

What kind of "godly nation" murders 79 heads-of-State in cold blood to extract the wealth from that country?

 

The Blacks would not have been in the chains of slavery had the Black tribes that captured them not sold them to the Arabs. Their captors would have killed or castrated them instead. The Black captives that survived that ordeal, would have ended up tending to the Sultan's Harem, and as for the Black women, their babies were half breeds and so they would have been killed at birth.

Stop judging the past by our humane Christian laws that became universal after the two world wars. The Christians knew they were doing wrong by holding slaves, but it was impossible for white people to work in the excessive heat of the South at that time. It was hotter than it is today.

 

So God inspired a system that didn’t become “universal” until after the world wars. Does that mean that the system didn’t reach its full maturity, it’s full potential until that time?

 

Of course Christianity hasn't reached its full potential - and it never will unless everyone can achieve unity with the Divine. I don't think that's gonna happen.

Thanks for letting us know that deists and Christian ministers are now one and the same thing? You do know that half of our Founding Fathers were ordained Christian Ministers?

Then again, how would you know, after all it's not politically correct.

Infallible only on issues of the Church - such as the Immaculate Conception. But even that wasn't fully defined.

Your interpretation says more about you that it does about anyone else. First of all the American's do not choose their leaders, the delegates do.

Also there's a misconception about our separation of Church and State. Each colony at the time had their own established Church. To alleviate the fears of the different colonies; that the Federal government might establish its own Church and therefore they might be persecuted for not being a member, they put in the clause separating Church and State.

Yet, the fact that religious services were being held every Sunday at the Rotunda in the Capital Building, proves that we were a very devout Christian nation.

As for the Papal Bull, it was against Freemasonry since it went against the Church. I know that many of our Founding Fathers were Masons, but Masonry here was not exactly the same as in Europe. Later on though a Mason in the US did commit an atrocity, so the American people did rise up against it. I know that more recently the Orthodox Churches condemned Freemasonry as well.

 

So what did you mean by universal?

I’m still not sure how the American system of government reflects Christian values. How could slavery and genocide be compatible with the Christian message of forgiveness and loving one’s neighbour?

 

Because of free moral agency to choose one's destiny. This life on earth is a test in faith and choice of agency. In the heavens, it will be different. But perfect for each of us based on what we chose in this life.