Is God's omnipotence important to you?

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    If so, why?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Everything about God is important.

    Your question is a bit vague.
     
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    I really like the idea of a fundamental energy off the scale creative force.....
    who is super super curious....... and is like the ultimate reality film producer and
    director... who will intervene when asked.... but generally gives us humans the freedom to
    make choices.... even bad ones... and learn a great deal from those choices.

    The curiosity of G-d would be illustrated if indeed it is true that time is non linear....
    and branches and branches and branches as we make different... and hopefully better.. . choices....

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...osophical-implications-multiverse-theory.html
    The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?
    I have suspected for about fifteen years that that time is not limited to being one straight line but instead branches.

    Over in another thread I just received a very specific and pretty amazing explanation for this that is in the language spoken by high level theoretical physicists.

    If........ you and I have been thinking seriously about changing our diet, becoming more physically active, well now we have another possible motivator?!

    The new and improved version of you and I may well get to live out life over and over and over again many times over nearly infinite time in the future, for each time that a moment within our lifetime is recreated and time is spun off in a new possible direction based on different choices that we are all free to make?!
     
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    Yes. I think GOD representing the higher power is a positive for those who choose to believe.

    jmo
     
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    You may have to expound on this a little to keep the thread legal. Personally though, knowing your POV, I strongly respect the restraint you showed.

    Its important to me only in the way it limits discussion. Likewise the inability of most to separate religious theism from philosophical (or non-specific) theism.

    I think omnipotence is limiting in that it pushes conversation and context down a very predictable road. Its hard to argue though that its not the main attribute of a creator god, or even a large part of the whole philosophical dynamic around 'god'. God becomes a sort of end game to the question why, 'because GOD', nothing to worry about after that eh?

    Some theism, like pantheism, limits gods power to the powers of nature. In which case god can only do possible things. But thats still lots and lots of things, women give birth for instance, so god could make a woman pregnant with or without sperm (throwing a bone to the christians, forgive me). But god couldn't perform paradoxical things like creating a rock he couldn't lift and so on. Pantheism likens god to a painter who mixes his own paint and can paint whatever he wishes, but can't change the whole nature of color and light, at least not without destroying the painting.

    What a non-omnipotent god fails to answer is the ultimate 'why?'. But in my opinion an omnipotent god fails there too.
     
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    Even Christians put "limitations" on God.

    They say He can't do things that violate what the Bible says are His Rules which He himself sets up.


    In other words, God surrenders His own omnipotence ....to a book.
     

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