Is it acceptable to destroy people for an agenda?

Heisman Trophy Winner Kyler Murray Made Homophobic Tweets As Teenager

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"Hours after winning the Heisman, given annually to college football’s top player, the 21-year-old Oklahoma quarterback was apologizing for tweets he made when he was 14-years-old. They were discovered in an online search, becoming standard practice for anyone in the news."

"As a teen, Murray made an anti-gay slur to friends via Twitter, using the word “queer” as a slam against them. The tweets were deleted early on Sunday."
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14 years old. Tweets to friends.

And the objective it seems, is to destroy someone, in this case Kyler Murray, who just won the most prestigious recognition in College Football.

We've entered a period in our society where totalitarianism and agenda has made it acceptable to a segment of society to seek to eliminate people who even innocently fail an ideological/cultural purity test being administered by unknown people.

Is this what we want in society? Is this acceptable?

What say you?

 

Leftist and SJWs will do what they can to destroy black people as this, and the example of Kevin Hart is on full display for all the world to see.

 

We all (key words are we all) have said and or written things we regret. If a person doesn't like you and wants to destroy you they will use what ever they can against you. If they like you they will do what they can to defend you. It's all human nature.

 

It’s not, but it’s what we have seen from leftist, we have seen them do this with reporter, a Cambridge police officer, McDonald etc

 

It seems to me the Progressive movement is not one of equality and tolerance, but of allegiance and compliance.

There are direct laser like parallels to historical regimes who have used tactics like these with dire results on society.

This should not be acceptable in any society, let alone the United States. This effort to destroy people being waged by unknown people hiding on the Internet needs to be rejected, and the people and movement behind it exposed.

 

Well, there is some truth to what you write. But that's not what's going on here, and you know it.

The question is, is it acceptable to seek to destroy and eliminate someone, the way we are seeing today.

 

I imagine it's when people are tweeting to friends when their most inner thoughts are freely expressed. You seem to be implying tweets to friends are of less significance. I agree the PC police sometimes take things too far. But I don't think it's outrageous for Murray to be expected to apologize for what some consider to be homophobic remarks. Especially seeing as this young man is now a role model for so many people.

 

Why doesn’t he just claim his tweeter was hacked? I mean that what MSNBC reporters like AM Joy did, or one of Clinton’s trusted advisors Weiner did? Just claim it was a hack job, he’ll be forgiven

 

I can't recall how many times I've pointed out to liberals that their method is tyranny. This isn't different. Just another example. Frankly, who cares what a 14 yo ever says?

The real issue is the ideological purity now demanded by those in the progressive world. The absolute expectation that purity of thought be uniform. And worse, their expectation that this purity be enforceable using government to remove you from your liberty to say anything remotely controversial, or otherwise impure. Progressives no longer support liberty. Just obedience. We've seen this movie before.

 

Inner most thoughts, or just slang used to give a dig at friends?

Should the career of someone be destroyed because they might have called someone "retarded" in a tweet when they were 14?

SJW's and the objective of Progressives, seems to have approached a tipping point. This totalitarian objective, where purity and allegiance is not only suggested, but required has historical precedence. And history records it was evil.

I believe whoever dug up these tweets knew Kyler was in the running for the Heisman, but clearly chose to wait until it was announced. And it's clear the objective was to destroy. Period.

It this to become acceptable in our society?

 

You seem to be quite agitated about this. Otherwise you wouldn't be using hyperbolic words like trying to destroy the young man. Throwing around words like totalitarian and as a like minded poster did...."tyranny".....only serves to make you appear just as strident as you accuse others of being. Sure, as a reaction to all the years when women and gay people were discriminated against the pendulum has swung too far. It happens. Get over it. I'm sure Murray will.

 

It's unfortunate for him. And I feel for him.

This is just one more example, for young people, to be mindful in their public communications. And if he is smart, he will take up that mantle. I wish the world wasn't as it is now - that your foolish choices made when an early teen can come back to haunt you. But it is the world we live in now, and wishing it wasn't so will not make it go away. Social media has changed our lives, but with that change comes responsibility and accountability.

 

You seem to be accepting of this tactic, since you are trying to attack me for stating the truth.

And yes, I am angry about these tactics. Everyone should be.

It is totalitarian.

A 14 year old tweets something to his buddies, and that is dredged up in order to destroy him. Is that fair? Is that reasonable? What is the message Progressives are sending?

Get over it? Right, tell that to the victims of this abuse.

Laser like parallels to historic regimes.

 

True

 

I am accepting the world we live in today. A world in which we have to take responsibility for words we send out to the world. I doubt there was a gun to his head when he posted the tweet. The discussion should be about teaching young people the implications of their words and actions. This is a teachable moment, not a political one. And he now has the ability to turn this into something that will raise him up to idol status, instead of destroying him, if he chooses to help young people as an example of what not to do on social media.

 

Considering the story discussed in this thread, the title totally does not fit.

 

The will to destroy him probably comes from fans who are upset that their own star, for example Tua, has been passed over as a recipient of the Heisman trophy.

In any case, I am trying to use examples like this often to show my kids that they have to be careful about what will be publicly available about them on the internet.

This goes beyond "destroying" someones life. For example, if I hire someone to work as a graduate student in my lab, you can bet that I do an internet search to see if there is some negative information out there. If the internet profile paints a poor picture of the person, for example by having lots of pictures posted with drunken stupor at frat parties, I'll probably look elsewhere. One harmless tweet about "queer" may not raise to the standard of serving as a red flag, but I also have to think about protecting my university, so people don't lob accusations that we like to hire homophobes into the program.

You see, this is much more subtle than the "destroying someones life" headline.

I'd say, if you want to be protected from your words being used against you, than don't use any questionable (for example homophobic) words. It is very simple, but difficult to do in today's social network landscape, in which one bad word you say can be preserved forever for everyone to see.

 

Spot on! Until the people start rejecting lefties out right this will continue. The answer is not to care about any of the liberal progressive "values".....which are not values.

 

There is a REASON why he did it. And WE as a society have to face this. To TOUGHEN our boys, so they can do mass killing, we turn femininity or anything less than WHOOOOOOOOrah, into gay.

And, there is NOTHING wrong with having all those that enter the public eye, to do a ONE TIME mea culpa to clear the air.
ANYOONE doing so, would be forgiven.

Do you think the Saudis had this kind of gender irritation at women DRIVERS? Driving is a MAN THING.

 

Male teenagers are clueless morons that say and do things that they should grow out of by their twenties Unfortunately, some never do. Those that do, look back at their teenage years and either laugh, cry, or are horrified. Women seem to do much better. Pinning destructive reactions to past sins on an ideological bent is as useful as blaming someone for gravity.

 

Who gives a crap? The feminist dogma has became toxic to society, along with the rest of liberal dogma. It has became a religion and should be rejected. If folks want to make jokes about homosexuals, women, etc....then so be it.

 

Hmmm.

I'm sure there was no gun to his head, and his tweet was nothing but an innocent jab at his buddies.

And yes, I understand hammering someone into submission, who is then forced to seek absolution or risk total personal destruction, appears to some to be nothing but a teachable moment.

And what is that lesson? Submit to our demand, or be erased.

Given the history of such agenda's, that is a demand everyone should be concerned with, and everyone should reject.

 

How about if they want to cut them up with bonesaws?

 

Very wise to teach your children about the danger of social media. And I agree it's possible what has happened to Kyler came from supporters of other candidates. But wouldn't they have posted it before he was selected, rather than after?

And I agree with your use of social media as a part of a back ground analysis of a future employee.

What I find interesting is this type of attack being used is making more and more people turn away from social media, after recognizing how polarizing and destructive it can be. And social media is the vehicle these attackers depend on to help achieve their objectives. Cutting off one's nose to spite their face?

 

While you see an 'agenda', I don't. I see a society, revolving around a digital footprint, holding all feet to the fire. I do agree that his comments - as a young teen - were just words used by a young teen. But what he is facing now is what anyone could face. So use it as a teachable moment, turn the situation around. He can play victim or hero - it's up to him.