Is space attracted to space?

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  1. Equality

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    We call a distance divider between two masses , space, space surrounds all matter, matter is submerged in space, matter is completely covered but not obscured from observation by space, while light is present in that space.

    When an object moves or is moved, space seemingly instantly fills the ''space'' where the object was, is space attracted to space??????????????
     
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    Uncle Ferd says...

    ... he thinks ya kinda spacey.
     
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    Its called "dark matter". Space is actually composed of "something", its not nothing (I love mimicking bad grammar) like we used to think it was.

    It could be sticky quantum particles. In which case-- yes space is attracted to space.
     
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    No ''aether'' or ''dark matter'' has ever been detected, matter suggests something of substance, space is seemingly of no substance. Science explains dark energy has the cause of expansion, would dark energy not explain more and better ''dark matter'' , with the exception that this dark ''negative'' energy is the mechanism of gravity and applies a centripetal ''force'' with on itself(space attracting to space).

    Negative attracted to negative like Quarks attracted to Quarks to make up a Proton, and the effect of + v + being the push and creation of torque.

    In simple terms negative is attracted to negative and it is the positive push that makes an illusion of neg is not attracted to neg.
     
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    As I understand it dark matter explains the movements of matter (stars and so forth) on the outer rim of galaxies. The lower overall mass should cause it to rotate more slowly than the matter near the center. Instead it moves as if it is "flowing" inside of some substance. Astrophysics cannot explain the movement otherwise, there has to be additional mass.

    This comes from astrophysicist. So maybe I got a detail wrong, but the overall idea is consistent with what I'm saying here.

    The particle I have heard of is called a (dark) pion, some sort of quark. Its all theoretical though, and I don't know if its consistent with Einsteins theory about the fabric of space and so. The only thing we know for sure is that something in space has mass that we cannot detect currently, and it seems to be everywhere.
     
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    Yes indeed something in space does have mass, but we do not detect that of which gives an object mass and any sort of gravitational wave. I consider empty space itself is negative mass, and all that is negative is attracted to all that is negative, I.E I drop an object it is the negative of the object that is attracted to the negative of the ground.
    Expansion being entropy more positive than negative, which we can observe with gases and metals.
     
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    It's "dark matter"...

    The LHC has pretty much proved this....

    As snooty and arrogant as the scientific (er academic) community is - at least sometimes they're useful.
     
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    C'mon man, it's dark matter..

    You're being theoretical...

    I will certainly say if we were in space on a space walk there is matter between you and me...

    There is something there...

    Space isn't exactly a vacuum....

    We as a spices have a lot to learn....
     
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    There is space between two bodies yes, but there is nothing that says this space has to have any sort of physical body, a negative ''virtual'' energy with a ''virtual'' body. Particles then exist in this space.


    ''You're being theoretical...'' of course , I like to discuss the things we do not not know or the things that we do know but from a different perspective.
     
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    I have been contemplating whether or not "space" is some form of temperature component to existence, so maybe.
     
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    Then we wouldn't have planets or especially stars...
     
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    Why wouldn't there be? if we start with considering an infinite n-dimensional void that was made entirely of negative mass(this dark negative energy of ''virtual'' substance), that was/is attracted to itself, then why can't we consider that this infinite space is attracted to a finite centre point of the infinite space to cause a centripetal force pressure at this point that created the first positive energy to manifest.

    energy = work = universe=existence.


    1 ''positive spark'' causing the entirety of the infinite void to become an infinite black hole.


    P.s this being the only possible way to make something out of nothing.
     
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    I'll consider that expansion is a cause for gravity, however I really cant buy it...

    I think the whole big bang expanding universe theory settles well with people that have a hard time letting go of the concept of time....
     
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    I consider this, we observe positive energy expanding and observe negative space contracting at the same time.
     
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    Well that idea would certainly contradict everything we know today, but it sounds like an interesting theory..... If you're right then we both get the same end result, just different theories. lol.
     
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    Indeed an interesting theory, one that we kind of observe. If we add energy to metal the atoms charge in my opinion to a more positive Ion, where the molecules then expand, positive being repulsive to positive, then when the energy input is removed, the metal returns to its equilibrium a more negative that then contracts. Observed in gases also.
     

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