Is the young generation lazy?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by I justsayin, Jul 12, 2014.

  1. dairyair

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    Of course its parenting. But that won't make haters hate those they want to hate.
     
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    it's called late-stage capitalism, not so much to do with laziness

    I think you are wrong
     
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    Should the young people all hold five jobs so they can give the worthless baby boomers a free and undeserved retirement check, a free doctor, and pay off over 18 trillion of the worthless baby boomers back taxes?

    If they young people feel no hope for the future and have little in the way of prosperity it is only because the older generations stole everything that wasn't nailed down and left nothing for the younger generations.

    You load 16 tons and what do you get?
    A baby boomer parasite's mountain of debt
    The most worthless pack of thieves that was ever known
    Left everybody else to carry their load.
     
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    let the OP work at Macd's on zero hrs, fire at will and min wage - then let's see how lazy he feels.......
     
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    That's pretty lazy to accuse a whole generation of laziness. It's just like blaming a whole generation of kids for having no ambition.

    My opinion. This generation is in general not as prepared as previous generations. You can blame the "everybody gets a trophy" crowd and the "my kid can do no wrong" crowd, but I think most of the blame goes to the parents. Parents are not encouraging their kids to work hard and covering for them when they make mistakes instead of letting them learn from their mistakes. I made mistakes and my kids have also. My parents have been there for me to teach me to work hard and to make sure that I had opportunities for advancement. They couldn't afford to send me to college, but they taught me to work and provided me with a place to live while my brother and I payed for our educations. When I dropped out of college, I joined the military and finished during my first enlistment. My brother had a partial athletic scholarship and took out student loans to pay for his school. He finished school in 4 years with a double major taking up to 18 hours/semester. My kids are in a similar situation.

    Their friends are all across the board as far as opportunities and ambitions. Some are lazy, some work hard, some do well, and some work hard but aren't working smartly toward building a career. Most of the time, the kids seem to be a direct result of their family situations. The American family is disintegrating and we are seeing the results in the next generation. Most kids from single parent homes are spinning their wheels and most kids from intact families are succeeding. There is crossover, but that's what I am seeing with my kids and their friends.
     
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    Not wrong, but your basis for judgement is not comprehensive.

    Look at the infiltrated federal government. Look at the abridging of the purpose of free speech. How can a young person ever get oriented to being productive? How can they ever develop a sense of civic responsibility. No way!
     
  7. I justsayin

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    maybe that is the thing. they haven't been taught. same result though.
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    it's called not giving up and having faith and make something happen.
     
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    We operate in a false economy which makes the walmarts and amazon goods look more efficient.

    In a real economy, some of those goods will always be from those sources, but others will always be from local sources. A real economy always moves less stuff and people.

    Motion that is not expended in direct production is inherently inefficient really.

    In order to deal with this developed, dynamic problem we must take control of our federal government, and spend about 20 years focusing and changing.

    Article V is the way to do this. It is a lawful and peaceful revolution if done well. To do that we need to DEMAND preparation. It is unconstitutional to not prepare.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...nstitutional-threat-thread-real-defenses.html
     
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    do not agree with that, what we need to do is elect people that want change..... question is, how to get the majority to see that change is necessary when right now people vote party line regardless

    elections now are often won by ones sides voters not voting rather then the best man winning, that is why negative attack adds work so well, they motivate the sides to vote against the opposing team

    people no longer vote on what they do or do not like, they vote for the home team

    even getting the best people into office means nothing if there are not enough to get the votes to pass good legislation and get rid of bad legislation

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    Maybe I should change the title of the thread to the current generation of parents and grand parents have done a horrible job. Because that's what it seems to boil down to. They raised the youth to be like this. It would be nice for some accountability.
     
  12. Pollycy

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    You make very good points here, although in a number of ways I can tell you that the difficulties the 20-somethings and 30-somethings face today are no worse than they were "back in the day". Example: in the late 60's and throughout the 70's we had the Vietnam War (which forced young people into the military against their will and got 60,000 American military personnel killed), we had unbelievable political corruption (Nixon), towering inflation and flat wages ("Stagflation").

    Things cost less then than now, true. But people make more money today than they did then. Example: in 1970 the federal minimum wage was $1.45 per hour! Today the federal minimum wage is $7.25 (Federal contractors make a minimum of $10.10 per hour). So, in reality, it's all relative.

    A much bigger problem as I see it is that today's young people suffer from having never really gotten a good education. The disappointing crap taught in the "People's Public Skool Combine" was never oriented to achieve anything more than mediocrity, at best. If you don't read, can't write, can't reason, your mind does grow lazy. You become content in a little world of Facebook trivia, poking and thumbing around on the little rectangular slabs that nearly ALL of you have in front of your faces ALL the time. I pity these people. They have little... they know next to nothing... and they aspire to nothing but what some hyperliberal socialist demagogue will give them for free, in return for their votes. Sad and disgusting....
     
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    Kid: I'm mad at the older generation.
    Psychiatrist: Why?
    Kid: They told me if I didn't want to end up a burger flipper, I'd best go to college. I did and it cost me over $100,000 for a 4 year degree.
    Psychiatrist: And?
    Kid: Now these same people call me an entitled ******** for not wanting to be a burger flipper.
     
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    Lazy isn't exactly right. I think coddled and entitled is a better term. Those entering the workforce now are the first to not remember a world without the internet or computers or cable. They're grown up in a mostly politically correct world, which has softened and made them overly sensitive. They have not physically labored like past generations. Their definition of working hard is their WIFI being down for an hour=) They don't understand research in a library. They can find everything they need in 2 seconds. Using a map? HA!! Mowing the lawn? Pay other guys to do it. I blame all the parents obviously, but even I've fallen into the trap or more accurately been forced into it, against my better judgment. Its mostly Liberals and how they've taken over the schools since the 80s. Their influence has really screwed up a few generations.

    And all of this has effected how they enter the work force. What are you going to give ME is the attitude rather than what YOU can offer me as the employer. I'm doing YOU the favor. I can find plenty of others just like you for the most part, so stop thinking you're so special. Some of them are exceptional, but many have been told for too long how great they are, when frankly they're quite average. Watch try-outs on American Idol. Many can't believe they're not amazing singers. Want to know why? Their parents LIED TO THEM, hehe.
     
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    I feel this is a great explanation of things people don't think about. The technology is a blessing and a curse. The education is blasphemy. They never had a chance.
     
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    When the "young" bother to ask me for my opinion, which is rare (nobody over 40 knows anything), I tell them to forget all the defeatist bull(*)(*)(*)(*) about how nobody can afford to get an education and, instead, get a REAL Bachelors Degree from a good school, majoring in something that matters and is marketable!

    Then, while they're young and unattached, I tell them to try every way they can to get an overseas assignment with a major-league Fortune 100 corporation overseas for several years, going expatriate tax status! These are typically jobs that pay very, very well, and have generous perks, vacations, and investment programs. The young guys bellyache about "college debt", but with the kind of jobs I'm talking about you can earn enough in two years to live well, pay off all the education debt, and be well on the way to establishing a real career path that is enriching and fulfilling. But most of them just look at you with that vacant expression telling you they actually have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Besides, it's comfortable back at Mommy and Daddy's house, the food is free, and the living is easy. And they know that as long as socialist enablers like Obama are elected, nobody will disturb their long, comfortable slide into decay and dysfunction....
    [​IMG] "Where IS that app for all the free stuff...?" :rock_slayer:
     
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    Maybe they learned a lesson from Wall Street and are going to advocate for a "bailout"?
     
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    A parasite, whether it's a Wall Street corporation deemed "too big to fail", or some slacker-ass POS who lives off "disability" fraud and government welfare, survives only at the mercy and tolerance of the host animal. That host animal may choose to allow the parasite to suck him dry and weaken him with disease, eventually killing him. Or, the host animal may choose to turn on the parasite, rip it out of his flesh, and destroy it. Ultimately, the decision is up to the host animal -- not to the parasite.
     
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    good analogy.
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    There is a message in this. The parents don't give their kids a chance to do better because the groom them to be like this. Very interesting. And good for parents to understand. We need to have seminars for parents not kids maybe.

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    There is a message in this. The parents don't give their kids a chance to do better because the groom them to be like this. Very interesting. And good for parents to understand. We need to have seminars for parents not kids maybe.

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    There is a message in this. The parents don't give their kids a chance to do better because the groom them to be like this. Very interesting. And good for parents to understand. We need to have seminars for parents not kids maybe.
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    The more I think about it what horrible parenting. it doesn't matter what they intended to do, but look at the end result. And this has nothing to do with politics. Parents...take control of your family life!
     
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    In answer to the question in the title of this thread-------------yes. But----------------they are driven into this thinking by the leftwing education system and its love for PC BS. They are taught they are entitled to what they want without working for it by the actions of todays so called educators. In school these days they get a trophy not for achieving anything, but just for having been there. They are in for a great shock when they get out from under the ignorant PC thinking of our radical left education system. They find out that employers expect them to WORK!!!!!!
     
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    There shouldn't be trophies for everything. That obviously doesn't work.
     

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