Is there an American Culture? Let PF decide

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  1. Questerr

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    You would find those places in the Roman quarters of those cities. The places where Italian-born Roman merchants and plantation owners had their houses and where the Legions had their garrisons.

    The art, architecture, etc outside of those quarters all had regional cultures.

    "I am a Roman citizen" was the key phrase and that was political, not cultural.

    The same applies tpray, there is a false conception of a singular American culture in other countries because they don't know enough about us. They do know some though. Tell someone in a foreign country that you are a Texan and they definitely understand that involves some serious cultural differences from "American". You get similar responses with "I'm from California".

    Similarly, someone from Britain could come to America and we think they have a singular British culture, when in actuality someone from London is going to have a very different culture that someone from Cornwall or Leeds or Glasgow.
     
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    They became city boys. The frontier was settled by people who could not tolerate the "city fathers".
     
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    They are on a path to secede from the USA in the same way Texas is.
     
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    Neither of them advocated a gigantic central government with 20 or so armed police forces that takes 15-25% of every American's life in taxes for itself. There was no income tax, other taxes, SS, medicare, permanent administrative state, federal reserve, detoothing of the 5th and 10th Amendments, federal abortion rights,... and dozens of other examples of federal overreach not even dreamed of by them. The things you mention are small potatoes in comparison to aspects of our federal government all the framers would almost certainly object to. In fact, given a choice between what we have now and the King, they'd likely suggest they had more freedom under the King than we have now.
     
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    Well political thought is a cultural especially once it becomes enshrined and then spread. How many countries were Democratic Republics before the USA? Are there similarities in the form of government we perfected in the countries today? We took political ideas from England, France, and Greece. Created a form of government and then we have tried to spread that to others and others have adopted it.
     
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    Thank you for acknowledging your premise was wrong.
     
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    "Police force" was a concept that didn't even exist at the time.

    Hamilton most certainly advocated for taxes and a central bank.

    Both of them would have supported amendments ending slavery and they did support amendments changing the way president and Vice President were elected.

    They also wouldn't have dreamed of an America that was the size of a continent. Should we reduce America back to the 13 original states?
     
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    Hoping The Old American Culture would just Die Off Peacefully or in Pain, I'm cool with either.
     
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    To be replaced with what? By saying you want it to die off them means it does or did exist ergo it would be replaced with something else.
     
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    In fact, my premise was spot on. Read it again.
     
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    It's false. Not all Americans held a suspicion or hostility to the government. A significant portion of them even from the very start wanted a more powerful central government.
     
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    Sure there is an American culture which is essentially an amalgam of innumerable subcultures which collectively produce a unique American culture.
     
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    ... a Culture where a Child can grow and flourish where their skin color doesn't determine if they matter.
     
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    Can you even point to a single cultural thing that 99% (not even all) Americans would agree on?
     
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    Pro-confederate Anti-american losers! But I do have to acknowlege that they share in the greatest American value of free speech which is something regressives do not share with Americans.
     
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    I said nothing about "all Americans". Why make stuff up?
     
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    But see that is what an overarching culture is.The things that no matter where you are from you look at and say that is American. Every time some one in Mongolia takes a bite of a hamburger they are eating a piece though a small one of American culture. Ie its cuisine.
     
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    Unless your free speech is used to express your homosexual attraction to someone, then "real Americans" like Roy Moore think you should be in jail.
     
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    "Near universal"

    Your words or no?
     
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    I dont know if that is really an answer since people of different ethnic ancestry not only contributed but fundamentally changed American culture to what it is today. Frankly just look at our arts, without African Americans we would have contributed only a fraction of what we have as a nation to the world.
     
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    Even hamburgers have serious regional differences.

    Also are you saying American culture boils down to consumerism?
     
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    That should matter how you treat them ... especially if you've never engaged with them.

    That's what I'm talking about.

    In the end, individuals deserve the respect they give.
     
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    Can you show that in ANY cultural group?
     
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    Let's tone it down and say 90%.
     
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    What does an arbitrary percentage have to do with culture? A diverse culture will see America in many subjective ways. Subcultures will have views far different that other subcultures. If you argue that 99% of Americans have to agree as to what American culture is, then my question is who is the authority that came up with this and do you have source citation for a claim that culture is based upon a specific percentage agreement?
     

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