Islam: How concerned are you?

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  1. Regular Joe

    Regular Joe Well-Known Member

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    This isn't going well. I have no quarrel with anyone who chooses one benevolent way of belief and sticks to it. That's a good thing, and I endorse it.
    We're seeing more and more excerpts from Koran scripture that illustrate a benevolent belief system. That's well and fine.
    But the problem with radical Islam is in your face, and it ain't going away. We see how Muslims establish their own little districts, and refuse to integrate into the host society. They want us to buy into their ways, regardless of what we have established.
    How concerned are you that some of these slogans, like "Islam will rule the world" will be pushed to the point of civil confrontation?
    There are a LOT of things about living in society that I find to be uncomfortable. I go about my business, and leave others to go about their lives, and that's fine. Will Islam let it go at that?
     
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    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    Islam, taken literally, is antithetical to western modernity. There will be war until they change their ways. However, we have the ability to nuke them out of existence so theyll never win against us. Push comes to shove theyll need to learn to get along or get (*)(*)(*)(*)ing annihilated.
     
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    That's pretty cocky of you.

     
  4. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    what, am i supposed to respect people who believe ridiculous fairy tales?
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Bangladeshis, Indians, Chinese, Jews among others all establish their own "little districts". Take a look around Stamford Hill in London; you'll be lucky to spot anyone not Jewish; and if you're a goy they won't even speak to you. The same goes for Southall for a glimpse of the Indian sub-continent but without the weather.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ch-side-of-the-road-to-walk-down-9746012.html
    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=s...y-built-squalid-homes-immigrants.html;964;607
     
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    In all honesty, I do have a fair amount of concern when it comes to adical Muslims.

    Because, the reality is they want to force me into slavery or kill me.

    But, it's not an verriding concern because terrorists attacks are rare in this country and I am in a small town, with which it is not likely to face a terrorist attack.

    Does not mean it can't ever happen here, but it's just not likely.
     
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    There is no hiding that Islam's goal is to be the dominant religion on the planet. Similar to any people who desires to dominate another either through controlled speech/opinion or through violence, the result is conflict. Each side determines that it will succeed, through outright actions or through subterfuge.
    As a nation, we have become so divided that we have indeed become easy targets for such things to happen. Our government cannot protect us from attacks from within or without, without suspending the Constitution. Our administration is taking a popular tact with the progressive liberals of silencing our objections. That is the first step to install tyranny, by NOT calling it a threat from jihadists, but a more insincere statement of violent groups or potentially violent groups, including many Americans within that statement. Most people will do anything to avoid conflict, even surrender their Rights and demanding that others do the same.
    I prefer to keep a weather eye out and see what develops AND hang on to all of my Rights, regardless of what others demand I do.
     
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    Not in the slightest. The vast majority of muslims wish no more harm to me than I do to them.

    Islamist terrorists are so extremely rare that they are not a worry, just like having a plane fall on top of me isn't a worry.
     
  9. Regular Joe

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    Who you gonna' nuke? Paris? London? Flynt, Michigan?
     
  10. Regular Joe

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    All of those other groups you mentioned aren't besieging shopping malls, or taking hostages, or decapitating people in the street.
     
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    I'm using hyperbole. I simply mean we can always hit them harder than they can hit us. If the Islamists (*)(*)(*)(*) with us, they will regret it.
     
  12. Regular Joe

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    Ah Sweden, where nothing never goes wrong. Except:
    http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/14/muslim-gangs-continue-to-terrorize-55-neighborhoods-police-powerless/
    I did a little Google search with the key phrase: "Islamic violence in Sweden". Human trafficking, intimidation of Swedish police, rape.... nah. Nothing happening here....
    Here's another "pretty good" link:
    http://www.islamophobiawatch.co.uk/category/anti-muslim-violence/
    That site was established to fight Islamophobia, but recently gave it up. Click on their "Home" link at the top of the page to see a lot more anti-muslim stories they've covered in Europe.
     
  13. Brewskier

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    MOD EDIT - Rule 3

    http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2003/10/how-many-islamists

    http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/65537

     
  14. Medical Officer

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    I'm much more concerned about the other Semitic cultural influence if yo catch my drift.

    Islam is already in the crosshairs, it is a danger that is known and acknowledged as such. I believe that the tide has already turned against Islam in the West.

    Cultural Marxism is the far, far greater threat to Western civilization, and that's not from Islam.
     
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    Because it would be hard to live in a country full of Christians otherwise.
     
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    Yeah but the Hindus don't have anything in their religion about making the whole world subject to any of theire hundreds of gods. Both the Hindus and the Jews are quite happy to be left the hell alone. The same isn't necessarily true of the practitioners of Islam.
     
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    Yes, the Jews especially never interfere in politics for their own group interest.

    *Facepalm*
     
  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    What concerns me is people who obviously want to murder 1.5 billion people to protect us from a few hundred psychopaths. They're not going to stop at muslims, they're going to kill everyone they don't like.
     
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    Two false dichotomies and a slippery slope.
     
  20. Nat Turner

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    You've obviously never been to India or the West Bank/Jerusalem.
     
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    This is 100% true.
     
  22. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    How is it a false dichotomy?

    If it is true that muslims are indeed all violent and out to murder any non-muslim what will we have to eventually do to protect ourselves? It won't be enough to just deport them

    This, "they're out to get us" BS is precisely the same argument the Nazis used on the Jews, and they DID try to kill all of them, didn't they? (or are you a HD?) (Not Godwin's, I'm simply using an historical example)
     
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    The Muslim challenge is ultimately doomed to fail because it attacks the West in an overt, direct, and unveiled way, bombs, bullets, and threats. That's just not going to work because the Islamic world just doesn't have enough bombs and bullets to break the West.

    While someone drawing cartoons lampooning the Muslim faith and its pernicious influence on the West will be lauded a hero, anyone caught doing the same for the Jewish influence will be immediately branded an anti-Semite and, depending on the country, be put in jail.

    The Jews have drawn a circle of infallibility around themselves that cannot be crossed by anyone, under any circumstances. Even if Israel were to literally start gassing Palestinians with mustard gas, no one would be able to object without immediately being branded as anti-Semitic.
     
  24. Regular Joe

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    Why would one go there? India is where the Hindoos want to be left alone. I'll leave them there.
    Israel is where the Jews want to be left alone. I'll oblige.
    Is that too socially stalwart fer ya'?
     
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    Exactly! & if you read up on the Islamic Empire in its heyday around the Mediterranean, they were - as a government - horribly inefficient. Their taxation was based on extra income from Christians & Jews - otherwise, their citizens didn't pay much in taxes. Thus conversion of people to Islam actually damaged the state - they had to come up with other ways to fund the state, or go under. Expand or die - but if they were too successful (made too many conversions), it was just as bad as military defeats.

    & they were prone to factionalism - not just Sunni v. Shia, but also Berbers v. Arabs, fluent Arabic speakers (& readers & writers) v. illiterates, highly cultured urban elites v. recently converted people from their version of the sticks, whole families/kin groups that fought tooth & nail for the administration of the empire, & so on.

    The petro economies are not much better. Yah, they can buy or rent or hire expertise & technology. But without a homegrown base of engineers, scientists, technicians & the various specialties that support all those - it's hopeless. They're trying to pick & choose purely military or power or water or transportation fields - but those are all highly dependent on POL, for one. & lots of dedicated, skilled expertise for another. The petro economies tend to hire out that expertise - whether it's Palestinians, Philippinos, ethnic Chinese, Pakistanis, or from wherever. They suffer from the grandee illusion - they mostly don't like to dirty their hands. But in a highly mechanized World, it's all but impossible not to dirty your hands from time to time, or @ least enough to know what the job should look like @ the end.
     

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