Islam only scares the insecure

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  1. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    It is becoming increasingly obvious that Islam scares many political individuals - conservative, liberal, fascist whatever; especially those with religious, often Christian, tendencies amongst others because Islam poses philosophical dilemmas they cannot address or resolve. Many of these individuals more often than not place their criticisms of Islam on entirely contrived and arbitrary notions of morality, thought and action that could be used as counter arguments to their own position. In fact, orthodox social-conservatives, alongside statists, particularly nationalists, and opposing statist religious groups, such as Christians - particularly Traditional Catholics often parallel their orthodox Islamic brethren in their disgust for liberty and inability to lead a purposeful life in a political sense, or apply a rationally principled process of intellectual thought. Their criticisms of Islam are rooted in a growing sense of failure and incapacity to maintain and validate their own beliefs, rather than sincere concern for the religion of Islam. It is the harbinger of that inevitable existential crisis that accompanies these people and their beliefs. This is particular evident in the issue of national identity which is most consistent amongst their ideological positions. In the words of Oliver Roy 'Islam seems to call into question the very identity of the country' and forms the basis for the ideologies described to ground and promote their own agendas.

    The Islamophobia materialized in the overtly critical discussion of Islam that we see today plagues society is far more a symptom of the insecure and the ignorant than that of the concerned and knowledgeable. It is the tool of those with their own, often equally oppressive agenda with regards to the alleged values they seek to stop. Historical parallels are quite common, the most blatant being the anti-antisemitism that evolved into an extremely disturbing social movement in the twentieth century with the rise of extreme nationalism in Europe. I can go on.
     
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    Islam's War With Everyone...
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    Islam’s Religious War with Everyone
    April 22, 2014 ~ Few divides are as impossible to bridge as those of religion. You either believe or you don’t.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am concerned that only 1% of Muslims support violent Jihad against The West, and that means 10 million people.

    I am concerned that many Muslims find it soo hard to condemn terrorism against Jews.
     
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    Religion, in general, scares me. The hate, ignorance, bigotry and stupidity it perpetuates is like a virus on humanity.
     
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    Why should Muslims condemn terrorism against Israel? The Israelis started it in Palestine even before the Brits were out. Read up on Irgun, also the Stern Gang.

    It should be noted that while the US supports Israel regardless of its actions, the Israelis have their own agenda. Check out the USS Liberty incident.
     
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    because political violence against civilians is a war crime.
     
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    I don't find it hard at all, its plain and simple really. They all agree on jihad just some disagree on when to use it. All agree with 'submission' or they couldn't be muslim because the very name means submission and going after infidels.

    Fileting up people for 'sins' is not ok.
     
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    I can show you lots of violence in the quran, show me one place In the New Testament where Jesus committed violence. Although most Christians do go to war without questioning the reason. it doesn't make the religion wrong just the people who claim to obey it. Jesus said to come out from the world not police it or submit any of its people. Self defense is one thing but most wars are not about that, they are about greed

    If women in islam had any power what so ever it wouldn't have lasted a day, imo. But sense many men are led around by their private organs grew into the largest cult in the world. A man can have many wives and sleep with whoever he wants then divorce her the next day, what a deal that is if your a male. What about paradise, same thing men get lots of virgins women the shaft 'again'. Women have sexual desires too if their clit is still in tact, but all they will get in heaven is sexual frustration sharing one fool with 70 or so other women, Is that hell or what?
     
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    So you agree that drone attacks on neutral nations is a war crime. Seems the US is a terrorist nation. How can we condemn terrorism by otherswhen we use it ourselves?
     
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    I agree with much of what you said, however, my comment still stands. Religion and the bigotry, hate and stupidity perpetuated by its followers contintue to cause harm to people around the world, in the name of their beliefs.
     
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    None of our concern except for the oil we bought and paid fro there we should stay out of their politics. We did spend lots of technological money and time getting the oil out of the ground but that doesn't give us the right to rule or kill them for it. Just kill those who blow up our stuff and leave the rest to its people.
     
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    It is very frightening the way many Muslims refuse to condemn terrorism against Jewish civilians.
     
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    People are imperfect. Some kind of morals and belief is important and some are dangerous. Immorality and no limits is also dangerous. Look what it has done to this nation alone. That's why I think this is just a probational boot camp of sorts. We failed and went with Lucifer and now we have one last chance to get back with God. All of us may be fallen angels ,not sure but it would make sense ,we are all evil in our own way.
     
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    Jews like other religious groups need to condemn the apostates who use filth and greed to tear down morality in their nation and others. The same God they say made them special also gave them laws, well they ignore the laws yet keep the chosen title.

    I don't think jews are in charge of NWO though, I think some work for it but its is more on a false christianhood than Hebrew.
     
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    The world will accept Muslims and Islam more when they can become more comfortable condemning Muslim terrorism.
     
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    You are missing my point. The reason we shouldn't assassinate terrorists with drones is because they are civilians. Our jurisdiction ends at our national borders. When we kill someone (and it's almost never only one person, collateral damage is expected) with a drone, we commit a terrorist act. How can we assert moral superiority over terrorists when we do the same things? How can you be disturbed by Muslim indifference to terrorism when there is such indifference here? Or is it the target you object to?
     
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    The world will be much happier and more accepting of the US when we stop interfering in other countries' internal affairs. Not killing their citizens or funding revolutions and coups would be favorite.
     
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    I didn't miss anything, I agree we are a nation of warmongers using islam as an excuse, imo. I'm just saying our only interest should be our bought and highly paid for oil interest, that's it. Just the oil fields. The crap about democracy is just that crap, let them stay in the cave days if that's what they want. Not our business.
     
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    Sorry. for some reason I thought I was talking to Ronstar. I wasn't paying enough attention. I apologize.
     
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    I would say the same of atheism, but what does it have to do with the OP about Islam?

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    'Allah' has no love for 'infidels', perhaps this is why so many Muslims are unconcerned with violence against non-Muslims.

    If there's one thing the OP makes clear, Muslims and the Left are united in their criticism of the US.

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    When those 'neutral nations' cannot, or will not, act against our enemies on the soil, we have every right to go after them. Only an idiot would compare such an action with a suicide bombing against civilians.
     
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    Nonsense, terrorists are be definition civilians, i.e. not uniformed members of a nations army, so are we supposed to do nothing? The more of these animals we send to hell the better.
     
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    Is it possible that Christianity only scares the insecure?
     
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    If there is a hell, calling another human-being an animal that needs to be send there, is probably one of the steps that get you there yourself.
     
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    Jesus called people a lot worse. Animal is a good description for the vermin who did 9/11.
     
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    Jesus is said to have said “"let he who is without sin, cast the first stone". Seeing the atrocities the US was and is responsible for, that is certainly not you. So why don't you take Mt 7:1-5 seriously before falsely claiming moral superiority?
     

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