Islam religion should be banned in the U.S.

After these london attacks, Donald Trump was freaking right!! These islamic terrorists are nothing but freaks of nature. What they did to us on 9/11 was uncalled for and evil. They never expressed any remorse for it either. I'm so sick and tired of hearing the majority of muslims aren't extremists, WRONG!! Most of them are!!!

 

A miserable or depraved nut will use any excuse to do violent deeds. If they cannot latch onto one thing it will be another.

So according to you, there are 1.8 billion Muslim terrorist murderers in the world right now. Does that sound about right?

 

Really - OK but why stop there after all more people are killed by guns in the USA than are killed by terrorists

I maintain you should outlaw the religion of the NRA!!

 

Express remorse? They died in those planes, brotha.

Depending on how you slice the numbers, most Muslims can be said to be frighteningly socially conservative.

But American Muslims? Nah. They're not concerning.

Also your proposal is un-Constitutional and unethical.

 

These christian terrorists are nothing but freaks of nature. What they did to us during the Holocaust was uncalled for and evil. They never expressed any remorse for it either. I'm so sick and tired of hearing the majority of christians aren't extremists, WRONG!! Most of them are!!!

 

Not a good comeback and it's based on BS. I can't believe people like you are defending what did to us on 9/11.

 

That's not what I meant, why don't the surviving muslims condemn what Osama Bin Laden did to us? Oh that's right, he's their master.

 

Well, we need to amend the constitution.

 

They did

 

Good luck on that

 

First of all, Islam is not a religion but a political ideology (Sharia law much?).
Second, it's a totalitarian ideology which tries to control all aspects of life of the individual and take over the world.
Third, it's incompatible with Western societies.

 

Interesting, I had a discussion a while back with a friend about the perception of Trump's message. According to my friend, most Trump supporters understand that he does not consider Islam "as a whole" to be the problem, but more specifically that "radical Islam" is the problem, and he said that the idea that Trump considers all Muslims to be an enemy of the US is just a creation of Trump's liberal naysayers. He said that Trump's supporters know the truth, and that the opposition was doing all they could to create this false image of Trump being against all Muslims. I yielded that he might be right.. but then when I see threads like this I think maybe he wasn't right... and now I'm thinking I should show him what Trump supporters are posting on these forums. It should be interesting to see what he has to say about these threads

 

Defending? Have you dumped your gyro?

 

Not exactly. In Islam that which is not expressly forbidden is permitted.

 

So, since the Koran doesn't say anything about TV, I guess it's OK for Muslims to watch porn then?

 

Persia has always had erotica..

Are you concerned about that in particular? There was a famous Brit.. I think his name was Burton and he collected Arab erotica his whole life.. He wife destroyed it upon his death.

Yes, Richard Francis Burton.. died in 1980

The Perfumed Garden - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Perfumed_Garden
The Perfumed Garden of Sensual Delight by Muḥammad ibn Muḥammad al-Nafzawi is a fifteenth-century Arabic sex manual and work of ... Burton's translation is perhaps 25 pages long, lists 39 sexpositions as well as 6 types of sexual ...

 

No, I was concerned about you specious argument.

Whatever. As an alleged Christian, you surely know a tree is evaluated by its fruits.

 

I'm a Christian NOT a nun.

Have you ever heard of Richard F. Burton and the Perfumed Garden? Or perhaps the Song of Solomon?

 

What does this have to do with Islam and what Muslims are allowed to do or not do?

 

What do you think they do during those long hot summer siestas?

 

Watch porn?

Now, let's start from the beginning: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-be-banned-in-the-u-s.506493/#post-1067567583

Perhaps you could start braking those up for me? For example, explain how Sharia law is compatible with Western legislation, for starters? Thanks.

 

No I don't but I like some erotica.

You don't need to worry about Sharia law in the US. It means the well worn path to clean life giving water.

The only Sharia law you will see in the West is voluntary arbitrage in civil matters between Muslims... For instance you can get an Islamic divorce, but you'd still have to get a civil one.

 

There are some here who believe all of Islam is evil but there are those here who believe Islam is a religion of peace and none are evil. Neither is right, I believe Islam is somewhere in the middle and it is what people currently do in the name of their religion that defines it as good or evil. When radicals perform evil acts in the name of their religion it is their acts that are seen in the news. In order for Islam to be seen in a more favorable light we also need to see moderate Muslims speak out against the radicals and their actions but it seems they are silent. We need to see more action against the radicals in the middle east by Muslim nations but as long as they keep paying terrorists to attack Israel they will never take action against any radical groups.

 

This is an interesting reaction. The truth is that the odds of myself, family or anyone I know of being harmed by islamic terrorism is still almost 0, so as a non-coward, I'm not disposed to massive overreaction, we have much much bigger issues to deal with.

However, I won't try to say islam is a religion of peace any more than christianity or judaism . The problem with all religions are that they are based on almost nothing. That almost nothing can be turned with equal validity to any position you want, and at some point it always gets weaponized. Right now, islam is the worst offender out there. This is really just because it is the most devout religion, but all religions become that when people believe in them enough.

Instead of picking out random sub-groups of religion, shouldn't we work to get over all religion and magical thinking?

 

What some people fail to realize is that we are at war with Jihadists. Terrorism is not much different than gorilla warfare. In the US, we have a strong military with lots of hardware to fight big conventional wars but only a relatively small amount of trained elite forces capable of fighting the type of hit and run war terrorists are waging on us and Europe.
This war is as much physiological as it is physical. What we call terrorists is not only a religious war but also an ideological war. Fighting fanatics no matter how you define them is difficult because they are willing to fight and die for what they believe in. What appears to be cowardly attacks by Jihadists are usually fairly well planned. Their targets are "soft" innocent civilians. Their weapons seem crude, knives, cars, improvised pressure cooker, pipe bombs and any sometimes small arms. They aren't fighting with tanks and rockets. We can't use conventional weapons except small caliber firearms to counter them.

So far, we are able to call what we are attempting to fight as the Enemy. In past wars where we had the will to fight the Enemy, we either went all in or we lost. We became extreme because the enemy was extreme. Fighting Jihadists is no different. Extreme measures are needed.

We have met the enemy and the enemy is us. Could that be true? I think the answer is yes, especially when the terrorists are living and fighting us on our turf. If we are to fight extremists, fanatics, terrorists or whoever the threat is we must be willing to confront the enemy. If the enemy is known to be living in neighborhoods we brought them to, we must be able to infiltrate the neighborhoods or not allow them to exist as a closed society with extreme cultural beliefs and values that differ from the established laws and norms of our society at large.

We don't have one set of laws for Jews and another for Christians. Muslims living in this county or Europe should not use their religion to justify Sharia as supreme over common law of the land.

In past wars, particularly WWII, we had Japanize and Germans living on our soil. We didn't know who the good guys were or who might sympathize and aid the enemy we were fighting abroad. Consequently we had to make the extreme decision to intern most living on our soil, even citizens.

That may seem extreme, it was. We face a similar situation here and in Europe. Most Muslims are not terrorists but as many as 30% do condone Sharia and Jihad. Just turning their back or looking away is aiding and abetting by our laws.

To fight back we have to enter their mosques, neighborhoods, even internet chat rooms and suspend certain freedoms that other citizens enjoy until they can assimilate to the norms of our society.

When terrorists do strike they need to be met with extreme force. Kill them before they kill us whenever possible by any means possible. Calling 911 is not enough.