Israel and Palestine. My take

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  1. Laurence123

    Laurence123 Member

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    Those in the Gaza strip and West Bank must be given as close to an equal amount of property and land to their respective countries. This can be done by a large migration from one portion of Palestine to the other whilst growing the area of that portion in an appropriate manner. It no longer makes sense that because of religious sites they cannot create a close to equal amount of territories where they can occupy a safe and secure population and environment. Israel is at fault originally by making the foolish decision of occupieing an area of the world where they will not be accepted because of their religious views. This was a foolish intent on trying to gain the land it may have occupied some long time ago and because of the world’s pity on them for their losses during the last world war. One African American family choosing to make a home in the deep south of the United States where the particular demographic could possibly be full of white nationalist is obviously very foolish, so how is the same scenario not foolish on the part of the Israeli settlers during the early fifties. Perpetuity of conflict because of religious beliefs is no longer an excuse to me for the Palestinian and Israeli governments/people’s conflict.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Arabs have 22 countries with millions of acres
    The Palestinian Bedouins in Gaza can settle in Egypt , Their brothers from the West Bank can
    live in the true Palestine - Jordan.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But they all want Israel - I wonder why? Maybe snakestretcher can tell us?
     
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    Imnotreallyhere Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why don't the Israelis give the Palestinians equal rights? Then no one has to move anywhere.
     
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    That's a silly assumption. The Palestinians are descended from Jewish farmers who didn't leave.. They stayed for over 2000 years and intermarried with Turks, Syrians, Greeks and Crusaders.. They want civil rights in their ancestral home..

    The rest of the Arab world doesn't want to live in Palestine.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not make 'silly assumptions', nor do I hark back into the mists of time to explain today's situation. It's effing 'history' aka living in the past which is the cause of all the problems in the region.
     
  7. AnnaNoblesse

    AnnaNoblesse New Member

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    Let's face the facts. Land belongs to those countries strong enough to take it and hold it. Eventually all of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank will belong to Israel. Israel will take it all, little by little. Those willing to stop Israel from doing so don't have the power. Those who do have the power to stop Israel aren't willing to.


    For the record I like Israel. I sympathize for the Palestinians. I don't like that certain counties use the Palestinian people as pawns in their fight against Israel. Regardless of my feelings or yours the facts on the ground are what matters. Those facts point to a greater Israel.

    I don't see the Palestinians getting their own state in that area. They're going to end up in Jordon living in tents.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The ill-informed don't know there's a difference between 'Palestinians' and 'Hamas'. Hamas is the obstructive force to Palestinians getting their own land - and there is enough desert for everyone.
     
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    That's the point. The Palestinians suffer because they're being used by everyone.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not quite, they being used - cynically and ruthlessly exploited is a better term - by Hamas, their own kind? And woe betide any ordinary Abdul on the Gaza omnibus who goes against Hamas!
     
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    That does seem to be true. I was referring to the way certain middle eastern countries use the conflict in Israel and the West Bank as a way to unite their own people against a common enemy in order to keep their minds off how crummy their own government is.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't know how right you are in that; :thumbsup: as a matter of fact Israel is a stabilising force, because if the Arabs didn't have anything to focus their hatred on they'd always be fighting amongst themselves.
     

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