Israel Katz. What Was He Thinking?

Is Israeli minister, Israel Katz, nuts?

https://www.foxnews.com/world/poland-awaiting-israels-apology-for-ministers-comments?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed: foxnews/world (Internal - World Latest - Text)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_of_Jews_by_Poles_during_the_Holocaust

 

He was thinking that all of the death camps were in Poland and while there might be some very nice poles, almost 90% of polish jews (1.5 million) were killed. Or over half of all the Poles who died in the war. Jus' guessin' mind you.

They were rather efficient in rounding their jews up, doncha think?

 

They sure were !

 

He certainly was not thinking of the incredibly brave Polish who fought in the British Air Force, it is doubtful that without their bravery and experience Britain would of won the battle of Britain and thus Hitler would of had complete mastery of Europe.
He certainly was not thinking of the Polish national who ran away from Poland to become a terrorist against the British even whilst they were fighting the Nazis (he did advocate only targeting civilians and policeman) then became Prime-minister of Israel!

Just guessing mind you!

 

I think there are also more Poles than anyone else who are given credit for their help towards Jews during WW2.

Poland came out with a law a year or two ago which criminalises claiming German Death Camps in Poland were 'polish death camps' and

Here

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...aust-law-triggers-tide-abuse-auschwitz-museum

Helping Jews in Poland in WW2 resulted in the death sentence. Interestingly in the Resistance giving away a Jew to the Germans resulted in the death sentence. Anyway at the time Israel saw the new Polish law which acted as above as antisemitism but then accepted it when they wanted to meet and form a bond against Muslims among fellow extreme right.

Now this Israeli seems to have undone that. Where the Poles have a very good case is that he was blaming all Poles when as we have pointed out that was not the case. Last night YouTube presented me with a marvellous angry view of the Polish position towards Israel now. They are well fed up with them and believe they are trying to manipulate Eastern Europe to get at West Europe and Muslims though they also pointed out that Western Europe is pro Israel in any case. 'Fraid I cannot find it at this time.

It may change but it looks like Israel has lost a friend. They did not accept an apology. Very proud people those Poles.

 

Not since the Zionists made a deal with Hitler have they been so involved with the right wing in Europe. But as you say the Polish are a very proud people who fought valiantly in WW2 they are not going to be shamed by a Zionist. Found this hilarious video where a Zionist moans about free speech around the Holocaust in Poland, oh the irony!

 

The law is stupid and pointless--it makes it appear as if Poland is trying to hide something. As a nation, with respect to the Holocaust, Poland has every right to be proud of its many citizens who saved thousands of Polish Jews, and who did so at great risk of confiscation, torture, and death. As to the few who betrayed life and Polish values, they will suffer the fate they deserve. Hopefully, in regards to Polish-Israeli diplomatic relations, better heads will prevail.

 

Animosity lies deep between Poland and Israel it is not the first time a zionist has insulted the Poles.

Shamir publicly declared his animus for Poles by stating that "every Pole sucked anti-Semitism with his mother's milk." Shamir contradicted his spokesman, who attempted to keep the comment off the record, and insisted that he wanted his comment publicized.[35] The comment caused controversy within Poland as being slanderous and libelous
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzhak_Shamir

The terrorist scum Shamir hated the Poles.

 

Like a famous nationalist lowlife once said "I'm sure there are some very nice people on the other side".

The VAST MAJORITY of Poles supported the eradication of their jews. Those confiscations were merely taking what was rightfully theirs, after all.

But I get how reality is hard for some people to stomach.

Notwithstanding that I believe that the Israeli minister is just as bigotted against palestinians. Generational hatred manifests Ouroboros.

 

They did save thousands, but they also helped kill 1.5 million of their fellow citizens. Polish jews represented more than 50% of the total polish deaths in ww2. You think that might have contributed to a hateful attitude by some right wing Israeli jews, only once or twice removed from that hate crime?

 

Somebody should educate Katz & others peddling holocaust guilt that no race, religion, nationality or ethnic group has a monopoly on either Good or Evil.

"Stalin's Jews"
"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people."CONTINUED

 

The vast majority of people in Europe were against the Jews, Christianity had seen to that. No need to single out the Poles.

 

Where were all the death camps again?

 

Wherever the germans put them, did you have a point?

 

One you missed obviously.

 

One the world missed, never heard anyone suggest the death camps were in Poland because of anything to do with the poles, but nice try at deflection.

 

Not the issue. The fact is that they were all located in Poland. It is that association that helps focus animus. But I get how empathy is a one way street.

 

Animus which you have added to knowing full well that the Poles were not responsible for the Holocaust and certainly not responsible for the location of the death camps. Do not believe in empathy, I never pretend I can put myself in another shoes. I can sympathise.

 

Excuse me, this issue isn't one of whether they were responsible for the holocaust or not. Obviously they were conquered by the nazis. That doesn't exclude the fact that there was rampant anti-antisemitism and a majority of citizens cooperating in the round up. Before the war there were over 3 million jews in poland. These days there's around 8,000. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to do the math.

You don't believe in empathy but believe in sympathy? How semantic of you.

 

You have no proof that the majority participated in the round ups and as I have said and you have ignored, antisemitism existed all over europe it was not unique to the poles.

 

I'm not ignoring anything. We are specifically discussing why a right wing Israeli cabinet minister who is one generation removed from the holocaust might make a nasty comment about Poles being anti-semitic. You seem to think it can't possibly be because of actual historical fact and body count because a bunch of other countries got rid of their jews too.

But you are right I guess they could have behaved like the Italians towards their jews, admittedly only 50K or so but "only" 8,000 died in their concentration camps.

 

Poland is the only country where Jewish survivors of the Holocaust have been murdered when they tried to return to their stolen homes.

https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/survival-and-legacy/liberation-the-survivors/

The above figure doesn't include the 42 Jews murdered at Kielce.

 

Again I am not denying that there was terrible antisemitism across Europe caused mainly by the Christian religion. Do we agree that christianity was the root of antisemitism in Europe, or do you want to give christianity a pass on this?
What you have failed to do is show that the Poles were any more complicate in the Holocaust than other European countries.
Do you want to talk about the Ustaze and Croatia?
What do you think of the Pole who ran away and left his own people to die whilst he went to kill British civilians and policeman? No one has answered that, give it a try!

 

Might that be because the Nazis also intended on exterminating the Poles and taking their living space?

 

We are in agreement about the wide spread antisemitism across Europe, I asked you for proof that a majority of Poles were antisemetic.

Italy was not occupied by the Nazis from 1939, do you think that might have some bearing on it?