Israel to attack Iran by Christmas – report

I made three two week trips to Palestine and Jerusalem before 1967.. before the check points and soldiers ...

You mean with that 5 billion a year in welfare loans and grants the Palestinians have better weapons than the Israelis?

Meanwhile rather than continuing to shoot off their mouths, why don't the Israelis just go ahead and bomb Iran... 9 years of threats is tiresome.

 

China has thousands of nuclear weapons and the capability to wipe out the continental U.S.

Much of their arsenal is underground able to withstand a strike and still be launchable along with much of their arsenal invested in their massive submarine fleet...the U.S. would be assured mutual destruction by China alone...

Now add Russia into the equation and the only thing the U.S. has left are some bases in foreign countries...and perhaps a few ships and subs...oh and a stealth bomber or two wondering where they should land...

 

Not sure what's your point is, but thank you for this information...

 

Margot... why bomb when there are accidents waiting to happen...

 

Oh...I was referring to the latest news on China and Russia threatening nuclear strikes if anyone hits Iran...

Here is a recap...

It appears if anyone does anything to Iran whether it be attack its nuclear capabilities etc it could likely trigger the next world war...


China is threatening the U.S. of World War in an unpresidented bold statement from a usually quiet giant...
Chinese General Threatens US with World War 3 over Iran | EUTimes.net

Russia is threatening to start a nuclear war in a powerful statement of the likes that haven't been used since the "cold war"...
Russian Top General threatens to start Nuclear War - CNN iReport

 

LOL...you mean mossadicents?

 

2 accidents in a week both at nuclear facilities... you tell me

 

I see, thanks for clarifications... just posturing, nothing else.

 

Naw...just coincidences...but...er...naw...

 

Israel has been claiming for years that they need to hit 22 separate facilities and that it will take 1000 sorties.

 

I personally think there needs to be decisive action and should have been taken before China and Russia could posture and use this for their influential gain.

No matter what the cost a strike should be done because it is basically inevitable to have to be done eventually.

The longer Israel or the U.S. waits the less of a technology advantage the U.S. will have if it does amount to all out war...

So that being said the sooner the better or there will be much bigger consequences for the indecisiveness...

 

Based on what evidence?

 

For starters why would a country with so much energy already in the ground want to have nuclear energy?

Also Iran publicly stated they would like to wipe Israel off the map so this alone should be reason enough for Israel to take absolutely no chances in allowing Iran to have the capability to develop such a weapon...

Also Iran's admitting it would do this if they could should be reason enough for the U.S. to take decisive action.

What it boils down to is a country that is rogue enough to say those things about another country should absolutely NOT be allowed to deal with nuclear power in ANY form...period

 

They have wanted nuclear power since the 1970s and until 1979 the US was training their nuclear techs and Germany was building their nuclear power plants.

Iran does need nuclear power.. so they use less oil and gas domestically and have more to export.

Israel couldn't stand for any neighbors to be stable and prosperous..

Jordan plans to build a nuclear power and desalination plant which they desperately need and Israel is fighting that too.

Iran never said they were going to wipe Israel off the map.. They said Zionism will pass.. like Nazism.

This back and forth crap is the way Israel keeps themselves jacked up and in the spotlight.

 

Thanks for the clarification...guess I haven't looked into the details leading up to the situation.

What are your thoughts on keeping these nations from having nuclear power just to be able to keep them from handing a device over to an extremist who would simply drive into Isreal with the worlds largest suicide bomb?

 

Simply drive? Its a thousand miles from Iran to Israel.. Nobody in the Middle East wants war except Israel.

I would rather Iran NOT have nuclear weapons.. I don't object to any of them having nuclear power.

But as long as Israel has nukes and threatens the neighbors, there's ample reason for other countries to want nukes of their own.. if only as a deterrent.

I think Iran is falling apart.. give it time.

 

Wikileaks Ethiopia Files: Ethiopia Bombs Itself, Blames neighboring Eritrea.

The Obama Administration pushing for severe UN sanctions against Eritrea?


Recently released Wikileaks Ethiopia files expose how Ethiopian security forces planted 3 bombs that went off in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa on September 16, 2006 and then blamed neighboring Eritrea for the blasts in a case that raises serious questions about the Obama administration's push to impose harsh UN economic sanctions against Eritrea based on the accusations made by the main culprit, the regime in Ethiopia.

In a report from 2006 marked “Secret ; Subject: Ethiopia: Recent Bombings Blamed on Oromos Possibly the Work of Government of Ethiopia” “Classified By: Charge [d’Affairs] Vicki Huddleston”, “An embassy source, as well as clandestine reporting, suggests that the bombing may have in fact been the work of the Government of Ethiopia security forces.” (Cable reference id: #06ADDISABABA2708.)

The Wikileaks report goes on, “a typically reliable information source” who “contacted Post to report that” the bodies of three men found at the bomb sites “had been picked up by police a week prior, kept in detention and tortured. He said police then left the men in a house and detonated explosives nearby, killing 3 of them.”

So once again the bellowing against Eritrea by the Obama administration and it lackeys at the UN going back to 2006 is exposed as complete bunkum and an identical frame up of Eritrea that has been regurgitated by the UN and its truth challenged Monitoring Group on Eritrea must be subject to a more critical scrutiny. Based on this expose’ it can only be hoped that the UN inSecurity Council, which is set to pass severe economic sanctions against Eritrea, will refrain from doing so.

Please help us petition the Obama administration to stop imposing sanctions against Eritrea. Your signature can save the lives of 5 million people in Eritrea and bring peace and stability to the famine affected region of East Africa. I am confident that, in the end, common sense and justice will prevail. I thank you very much for your time.

Please sign the petition here:
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitio...ons-were-imposed-eritrea/YjjGRqKK#thank-you=p

 

The truth, however, is very different isn't it? Was it not the CIA who overthrew a democratically elected government in Iran and installed a vicious puppet dictator in the Shah?
Was it not America who gave succour, support and lots of money to the thug and genocidal Pol Pot in a fit of pique after the hated Vietnamese overthrew the Cambodian regime?

No, the contrary to your assertion is true. The west's love-affair with despots, dictators and thugs continues.

 

Really? And which 'superior' weapons are those? Are you honestly suggesting that all the US weaponry Israel posesses is inferior to that of its neighbours?

 

This is a fairly accurate summary. It is the possession of nuclear weapons by Israel and the historical fact that Israel is a nation of military aggression that is driving the potential proliferation of nuclear weapons in the Middle East. Israel, which has nuclear weapons, is the greatest threat of starting a nuclear war in the Middle East as no other nation currently has that capability. Any other nation can rationalize producing nuclear weapons in response t o the Israeli threat. That threat needs to be eliminated if we are to remove the rationalization for other nations to produce a nuclear weapon.

Israel needs to be forced into dismantling it's nuclear weapons if we are to have a nuclear weapons free zone in the Middle East.

 

I look at it this way: If religious wingnuts have nuclear weapons, we all should be nervous.

ie... israel was created to sustain a religious pursuit.

WE THE PEOPLE are the reason that whole region is in turmoil.

'we' armed the quacks, whether it is israel, afghanistan, osama or the bush babies

'we the people' are often so stupid when it comes to mistakes 'we' have made.

How many people actually comprehend why Israelis wants jeruselem and the Dome of the rock?


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How many people comprehend that the sole goal of the Zionist movement since it's inception was to use force and coercion to remove then non-Jewish residents from Palestine to establish an apartheid Jewish state? It was founded upon the "ideal" of violating the civil and inalienable Rights of Citizenship and Property of the non-Jewish population and it's actions both prior to the establishment of the State of Israel and since that establishment have not changed. It continues to violate the Rights of Citizenship and Property of the non-Jewish population of Palestine in an ever increasing quest to take possession of all of Palestine.

The "zionists" that control the Israeli government have no interests in the establishment of a Palestinian state until it's prior violations of the civil and inalienable Rights of the the non-Jewish population are cemented into place.

Americans that believe the United States and Israel have something in common are grossly mistaken. American was founded upon the belief that the government's role was to protect the inalienable Rights of all People whereas Israel was founded upon the belief that the non-Jewish population of Palestine had no Rights whatsover.

 

that is the political aspect

but the REASON they want 'jeruselem' (palestine) is to build that temple upon the mount.

It is an underlying precept of zionism. To build the alter, sacrafice 'lambs' and per se, herald in 'messiah'

 

Which messiah(sic)?

Which 'lambs'?

Zionists, in my experience, are not religous people at all. They are good at using religion though. Which is why in the US, you have so many gullable fools that believe in crap like the 'rapture', a concept in which in the 'end days', a mass war will wipe out almost all Jews, save for 144,000 of them. Who will then convert to Christianity.

It's about as bat (*)(*)(*)(*) crazy as Hitler's obsession with Atlantas.

And way more dangerous.

 

Well, the founding fathers, like Herzl, did not care about Jewish religion or Jewish race. Herzl did not believe in the existence of a Jewish race or people, he called the Jews an "historical entity".

He did not care about Palestine, either, he agreed with Zangwill, that there should be established a Jewish state on some territory.

But the followers of Herzl were religious fanatics, they demanded Palestine as the only option.

And they did not care how many Jews and non-Jews will die in the struggle with the native population of Palestine and the Muslims and Christians of the region.

So yes, Zionism is a crazy religious project.

If Jewish Zionists did not care about religion, why would they insist upon Palestine as the only option for a Jewish state?