Israeli Air Force Strikes Targets in Syria;

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  1. margot3

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    I was there several times before the 1967 war. Moon is NOT lying. Israel has always been a thief.
     
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    here you are defending HAMAS again. What a surprise.
     
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    No....official reports as in UNSCOP are what granted land to the Jews as in 181, the gap between map 1 and map 2 is massive and its massive because you lie not because UNSCOP gave the Jews control over half the Arabs in Palestine.

    Here are a few lines of truth from the UN special committee made in 1947:

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    1. The total land area of Palestine is estimated to be about 26,000 square kilometres or a little over 10,000 square miles,40/ but about halt of this area is uninhabitable desert." - uninhabitable as in none inhabits it, not even Arabs. clear ?

    Does the lying map in picture 1 captures 50% of uninhabitable land ? no..., no it's allll Arab for some reason.

    Let's move on :
    The number of Arabs and Jews in 1946 were estimations, the last time a censuses was carried was in 1931, in 1947 Jews were estimated to be 32% of the total settled population in Palestine, a third of it and yet half of the land it got in 181 was to be uninhabitable desert - the Negev.

    And if you lose hair over why oh why did the evil UN "grant" the Galil (North) and Negev (South) to the Israelis then it's because the Jews were working their turning marsh and desert to irrigated land, Arabs only worked near their villages with no grand asiprations or dreams :

    "37. Any considerable development of agriculture in Palestine depends to a large degree on irrigation. The only extensive areas of good land which are undeveloped are the Huleh Valley in the extreme north-east and the very much more extensive semi-desert area of the northern part of the Beersheba sub-district. The former is a swamp which could be reclaimed by draining, and in respect of which a Jewish concession originally granted by the Turkish Government is in existence. The concession has been of no value, in part because it needs to be extended to a larger area to be made effective, and in part because of the interests of the Palestine Electric Company in the water-flow lower down the valley. Altogether, an area of 150,000 dunams (one dunam equals 1,000 square metres or about 1/4 acre) could be reclaimed.

    As this is the area of the headwaters of the Jordan and borders on Syria and Lebanon, it is of great importance to the whole of Palestine in the event of any large-scale irrigation project based on use of the waters of the upper Jordan.

    38. The semi-desert Beersheba area in the south has at present a settled population of 7,000 (mostly in the town of Beersheba) and about 90,000 nomadic Bedouins. The area has a good soil but insufficient rain to support a denser population. It can only be developed by irrigation. There are small Jewish settlements in the south of this area (sometimes loosely described as the Negeb) which are at present experimental and based on water brought by pipeline at great cost from a considerable distance. The further development of this area remains, therefore, problematic, being dependent either on the discovery of nonsaline underground water at economical depths or the development of reservoirs to store the winter rainfall over fairly wide areas.38/"
    https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/07175DE9FA2DE563852568D3006E10F3

    Israel has the land because it is it's homeland, because Jews came here, built it, fought for it, saw in it what no other nation saw and turned it to a powerful little country.

    And your maps are lies, Arabs never had any right to land they didnt dwell on.
     
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    What was there ? Arabs ? they lived where they lived in villaged twons and cities, they didnt live nor owned the Negev or any other barren place in Palestine. the ppl that built it - own it.
     
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    Arabs had no claim , no right and eventualy even the UN didnt see any right they have over that land, so I'm not the serpent tongue here, Im the guy with a flashlight and you are the propaganist running to corners.
     
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    Moon, whenever you are ready to reply #228 - alert me, stop with the BS and talk to the point,

    Arabs had claim to where they lived, they had no claim to the land Jews lived or worked on, they had same rights to barren land as Jews had, they got the developed land however and Jews the undeveloped land.

    That's the truth, that's justice, deal with it.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    It's the reality; and the fact that you're so defensive about it is evidence enough that you know it's the truth.
     
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    Well, the European Jews didn't "own" any land in Palestine either.
     
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    And what claim did the Jews have? Oh yes, they lived there 2000 years ago. Not much of a claim, is it? Count yourself lucky you were given land in the first place, after the horrors of WW2. Stealing more land doesn't do you any favours, frankly; and you wonder why Israel is vilified? Thieves generally are.
     
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    is that a concession?
     
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    No, it's a fact. Instead of gratitude to the world's powers for the gift of a homeland, it appears that wasn't good enough, so land theft is resorted to.
     
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    so you disagree with the UN? The farce runs strong with this one. I thought palestinian supporters were ALL ABOUT international law...guess only when it agrees with your opinion though, eh?
     
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    I don't deal in opinion; I deal in fact. And no, I don't disagree with the UN. Whatever gives you that idea?
     
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    read the implied concession in the post i replied to. concentrate on the word "either". But then again your understanding of the word "concentrate" seems to be what you read off a carton of orange juice.
     
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    read your own words. You mentioned something about israel being given land....
     
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    No it's simply a common and easy to disproof lie that keeps repeating here for some reason, you know how to read so you should be smart enough, you have no excuse short of lying.
     
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    No, read what they wrote, they gave the barren land to those who developed it, they gave the already developed land to the Arabs, almost as if they knew they wouldnt move their asses unless paid to do it.
     
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    Well first of all they DID own some land, the barren land was distributed by the mandate, remember them ? they owned it.
     
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    ofc you do lol, you disagree with 181. you said map 1 was true when it was rejected by the UN. read.
     
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    The Jews owned 6% of the land in 1948.. the rest they stole. That's why the first thing they did was destroy over 300 Arab villages. Its a shameful history.. I don't know how you can defend what they did and continue to do.
     
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    6% of the 50% of habitable land, not 100%, and 94% was certainly not Arab, that's the point, that's why the map by Moon is a lie.
     
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    Of course it was Arab. Did you think it was Chinese?
     
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    He can't. He can go through the motions of defending it but emerges as a purveyor of hard-boiled camel dung at 50 shekels per kilo.
    Who wants it ?
    Whenever he sets out his stall, mind, it's an opportunity for others to display the real goods.
     
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    Well recently Trump told Bibi to stop building in the West Bank.
     
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    Bibi is a trowelhead.
    The way to thwart these criminals is to take away the 30+ billion dollars that Obama just gave them.
     

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