Israeli civilan murdered by Palestinian in terror attack

Is it fake news that Jews are not allowed into Mecca? Sounds plausible.
"Tit for tat" might make a point that there's incredible, murderous prejudice
against Jews SINCE THE TIME OF MOHAMED.

 

Yes, but they get about two million tourists a year.
I am looking forward to going there myself. Might
even visit the West Bank and Gaza if its possible.

 

You ask a question and direct me to answer in a specific way, and that I do. Is that your 'gotcha?

You need to ask again. Then see if you 'get me.' (Is there a prize for 'gotcha' here?)

 

Don't twist this into a refugee issue. Emigration of Jews to Palestine was not a refugee issue. It was their right - in times of peace as well as in times of war - afforded them by the San Remo Treaty and the document of the British Mandate.

Remind me what international law forces a country to take in refugees from another country, when the two countries are in a state of war? Israel and Syria are in a state of war since 1948. Maybe we should have taken Syrian refugees though and lock them in camps, as the British did with refugees from Nazi occupied territories (including Jews).

 

You could say the Israelis "initiated" the Six Day War by striking at Egypt.
But then, the Egyptians had closed Tiran Straights to Israeli shipping,
had Russian bombers prepared and boasted they would kill all the Jews.
And the Jews believed them - they were digging mass graves in Israeli
parks.

 

Stop squirming and obfuscating - either answer my question or don't answer it. I personally can't think of even one instance where Israel was the aggressor.

 

Leaving aside the not so small matter of even Jews not being able to foretell all consequences of a situation years beforehand, and leaving aside the equally not small matter of allies' refusal at the time to bomb the railways leading into concentration camps (which led to questioning their intentions where Jews were concerned), and leaving aside the even less small matter of Britain's disregard for the self assumed responsibility for the fate of Jews as per the San Remo treaty and the Document of the Mandate - well, that's a lot left aside, isn't it - nobody knew at the time what will end first: the war or the existence of the European Jewry. Searching for a solution that didn't involve waiting passively for whatever fate brought was the logical course of action for those who wanted to survive.

 

I did answer as requested with a 'yes' or 'no.' I answered 'no.' So have another go and see if you 'get' me.

 

You clearly have no clue about Palestine. Why should Fatah run West Bank Palestinians have their land stolen because Hamas run Gaza fire rockets. Little doubt that you don't even know who Fatah are or their relationship with Hamas.

 

I don't need to have forensic knowledge to know that Hamas is responsible for the rockets being launched into Israel, and by that measure is also responsible for when Gazan civilians and 'kids' ( ) are killed in the reprisals.

 

You clearly don't even know where the West Bank is!

 

WTF has that got to do with Hamas' firing of HE rockets at Israeli civilians - including 'kids'??

 

I know it's hard for you but try and keep up. The topic was about stealing land. The land stealing is happening in the West Bank and as you clearly don't know, the West Bank is not in Gaza, you know, Gaza, that area controlled by Hamas, not the West Bank, you know, that area that is not controlled by Hamas.

 

You should have stopped there.
You asked for an answer to be 'yes' or 'no' and the poster gave it.

 

Yeah I know. I was facetiously doing what he did in his post to me (asking me for a yes/no) but it backfired on me!

 

Topic drift, mate - it happens?

 

Is that me winning a "Gotcha?" Do I win a brown paper bag of boiled lollies?

 

Yep, you win, Bushy, but I'm not in the US, I'm here (UK). Just send me all your online bank details (don't forget the password) and I'll er, give you the money instead.

 

UK...not Nigeria?

 

The following study confirms my assertions in regard to Ashkenazi Jews who dominate Israeli society.
It is additionally significant that Ari Fuld, himself, was an "American" - Israeli citizen


"A substantial prehistoric European ancestry amongst Ashkenazi maternal lineages"
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543
EXCERPT " Here we show that all four major founders, ~40% of Ashkenazi mtDNA variation, have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, rather than the Near East or Caucasus. Furthermore, most of the remaining minor founders share a similar deep European ancestry. Thus the great majority of Ashkenazi maternal lineages were not brought from the Levant, as commonly supposed, nor recruited in the Caucasus, as sometimes suggested, but assimilated within Europe."CONTINUED

 

I really don't know why it is necessary to look at this in any way other than post 1948. That is when the the West (the UN) made the fatal error. Creating a Jewish State in the middle of Arabs is just crazy stuff and it was always going to head down hill from there. Since 1948 what have we seen? European Jews and American Jews and others heading there and not one of them have any connection with that geographical part of the Planet, other than that they are Jews. We have seen the West (mostly the USA) arm Israel to the teeth. Why? Why not geographically move the State of Israel to totally neutral territory and save us all this embedded threat to World peace?

 

I wouldn't use such strong terms if they were not both accurate & widely held.

The Palestinians justifiably resist the longest & most brutal foreign funded Occupation in modern history.

Do you think that ANY indigenous population would meekly accept murderous, foreign land thieves who came from afar to massacre their families & steal their homes.

Feel free to name just one ruthlessly occupied people who have NOT fought their foreign invader / occupiers.



- "Israeli security forces 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months, UNICEF says"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-15/25-palestinian-children-killed-in-3-months-unicef/7415256


- "UN: Palestinian Children Tortured, Used as Human Shields by Israel"
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.530993


- "For every Israeli kid killed, 15.8 Palestinian kids have been killed"
http://www.countthekids.org/


- "Israeli Brigadier General Confirms: Snipers Ordered to Shoot Children"
http://www.palestinechronicle.com/israeli-brigadier-general-confirms-snipers-ordered-shoot-children/


- "The Israel Massacre Forces"
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-the-israel-massacre-forces-1.5962852
EXCERPT "The shooting on the Gaza border shows once again that the killing of Palestinians is accepted in Israel more lightly than the killing of mosquitoes"CONTINUED



- "Independent investigation details Israel’s deliberate targeting of civilians in Gaza"
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/01/independent-investigation-deliberate/

EXCERPT "A new independent medical fact-finding mission in Gaza has detailed Israel’s deliberate killing of Palestinian civilians in its summer 2014 attack, codenamed Operation “Protective Edge.” Acts documented in the investigation include the use of human shields, close-range murder of civilians, targeting of medics, and more.

The report based on fieldwork and research conducted by Physicians for Human Rights-Israel (PHR-Israel), in conjunction with several other human rights and medical organizations, sits at a bulky 237 pages. PHR-Israel, in its words, “recruited eight independent international medical experts, unaffiliated with Israeli or Palestinian parties involved in the conflict,” leading specialists in numerous medical, health, and human rights fields. Jennifer Leaning, the Director of the Center for Health and Human Rights Department of Global Health and Population in Harvard University’s School of Public Health, was among those chosen to oversee the report."CONTINUED

 

American Christian Zionism. Obviously you cannot move Israel. However I think without Christian Zionist pressure it is much more likely that Israel would have gone with the two state solution.

 

Why would anyone "trade" what was already their's for what they already have?

Just how much more of their land do you expect Palestine's native residents to give to the foreign Zionist invader / occupiers?

How much of your land would you give up to foreign individuals who said that your land was their's because their god gave it to them?

 

Why can't it be removed from the Arab snake pit? It was plonked there not so long ago, so it can be plonked elsewhere just as readily.