Israelis stage BBQ outside prison to taunt Palestinian hunger strikers

These convicts as you call them committed murders in many cases, including that of children, that they have to suffer the horrific indignity of smelling a freaking BBQ is just oh, so tragic for them.

Are you all of a sudden going to pretend to be an activist for the rights of imprisoned? Where are your posts complaining about the genuinely horrific treatment of UNJUSTLY imprisoned people, including women and children, in iran?

Oh that's right - you never made any.

 

The next time some Israelis get murdered by arab muslim terrorists, we'll be sure to look you up to see if you whine as much over the arab muslims cheering and handing out candies - a persistent activity they commit. Interesting how we never see people like you complaining about that, just what you dislike about Israelis.

 

And they are already in jail. Having sentences. Legal sentences. It's done, they caught, they judged, they sentenced. Law system does it work. Civilians - have no right to interfere with that work.

Read me once again - it does not matter who convicts are - they are already sentenced. It is illegal to abuse them in any way, any of them, in any time. In any circubstances.

Civilians are not allowed to abuse convicts, and I am disapproving the act of abuse. I do not care WHO abusers are. WHO the targets of abuse are. WHAT kind of abuse it is. It is not legit to do it.

 

Most sane humans would, this whole thread is ridiculous and stupid, as if BBQ odors are anywhere near something to complain about. There are prisons around the world where there is true suffering, people unjustly in them, torture, starvation, etc. but the jew-hating club here decided its better to whine about the jews than address true injustice. Pathetic.

 

Let's get to the heart of the matter; is cooking food now a crime? Or is anything and everything a jew does unacceptable since you want to see them all killed?

 

Where are your posts about that babysitter that cut child's head off last winter? Why are you not protesting against that?

Where posts about the girls raped by the priest that been teaching them about Christianity?

What about children drown in Syamozero camp?

Where are your posts about them? Oh right - you never made any.

Should I say for you, why? Because you never encountered topics about these events. Horrible events. Terrible. Disgusting events. That I know about, that I have read reports about, and even participated in consequences of which. You never signed petition against abmudsman Astakhov, but I did. Because I knew about these event - and you did not.


And now, there - topic is about convicts on hunger strike getting abused by civilians. Make topic about convicts themselves - and welcome me to discuss them. But in case of civilians abusing convits - I am disapproving actions of civilians. Not more, not less. Why? Because civilians have no right to abuse already sentenced, for any reason. Such as - the law.

 

No, cooking is not a crime. No, not everything jew does is unacceptable, and not because I want them all killed - because some things are unacceptable. Among them - abuse of imprizoned. By anyone. For any reason.

Abuse of any convict by anyone for any reason is not just. Abuse of any convict, by anyone, for any reason - is wrong. Any abuse. Of any convict. For any reason. By anyone. Is wrong. Abuse is wrong, of any convict, by anyone. Any abuse. Of any convict. Anywhere. Anywhen. By anyone. Is wrong. Am I clear enough?

 

Palestinian prisoners are hardly defenseless. They are protected by Israeli and international laws. There are countless NGOs protesting the faintest - real or imagined - violation of their human rights.

Barghouti, convicted on five counts of murder and two attempted murders, got a political science PHD while in jail. Not quite the helpless defenseless humbled abused prisoner...

I agree that prisoners - anybody for that matter - shouldn't be abused. There's a thin line between discipline and abuse, between punishment and the crime itself. This line should never be crossed, lest we become them, and this is the only reason I'm opposed to death penalty even for the vilest terrorists. On the other hand, they also shouldn't be allowed to abuse the system to receive privileges they don't deserve. If it takes a far right barbecue aroma to stop them, so be it.

 

Never the less, the system of law should - must - be capable of dealing with them without assistance from outside. Plus, the act of the citizens was not just wrong, it was childish - and potentially dagerous, if it provokes any new act of violence - possibly harsher, against them. While law should defend them, when they show off like that - they make law's work harder. And all that is for some odd sadistic satisfaction of teasing convicts on huger strike. Wasn't worth it, seriously.

So you understand what I mean - they showed their faces, what organization they are members of, if I am not wrong, and likely made some posts in social networks about the event. Basically - making themselves a potential target for some sort of attack. That is not very wise thing to do, when you deal with dangerous groups of people. And that been done - for sake of teasing convicts with smell of meat on grill. It was very much not worth it, in my opinion, based on experience I have so far in my lifetime.

 

Cast Lead? 5,000 sorties flown, less than 2,000 people killed. At 4,000lb payload, that's uhm... let's see... divided by... remembering decimal... that's something like 10,000 lb of ammunition per casualty... in the world's target richest environment... f****** WOW!

How'd you figure this man be? Is Israeli Air Force ''tis bad?

 

I am surprised to hear that inmates have enough contact with one another to organize such a strike. They should be kept in small, isolated groups.

 

A good point, actually. From what I gather through this thread - at least some members of strike have comitted very harsh crimes, and, I assume, are mostly isolated from majority of inmates. If that is so - I wonder, how did they managed to organise such and action.

 

Ha ha ha ha ha ! That if F-ing funny! - Bon Apetit'

 

I don't know the state of Israel prisons and all that but....why is it terrible to taunt prisoners with BBQ when said prisoners are CHOOSING not to eat? In time they'd be force Fed anyway right?

Now if Israelis were starving these folks ...keeping food from them ...and then lighting up a BBQ, Then that would be different.

 

Forcing Nutrition!

 

I have with HAMAS people no mercy?
HAMAS, ISIS, Al Qaida, Al Nusra, Hezbollah, Taliban etc. ... membership at them is for me enough for death penalty and medieval torture of them before!

 

I do not really think these are the people who are in Israel's jails. Who knows maybe a few but generally it is just people of the West Bank - 500 of whom are held indefinitely without trial - that is there is nothing to bring them to trial for. In fact 40% of Male Palestinians have been jailed by Israel at some time and according to Barghoti over 80% are refused legal counsel until they have been through extensive and often abusive interrogation.

I thought possibly you were going to say Marwan Barghouti who organised the hunger strike.

 

They did pass a law some time ago allowing them to do that. Possibly we will see this as the strike goes on.

 

Nowhere did he say that or even imply such a thing.
This is a thread about Israelis holding a BBQ during a prisoner strike and we're expected to offer sympathy?

This for a culture that is raised to hate Jews, to strap explosives to their children in order to detonate them among Israelis, who target Israeli children, and have streets named after their 'martyrs' who murder unarmed innocents?

Being aware of how Taqiyya works you really should be quoting from reliable sources when making any claims about Israeli atrocities you've mentioned.

 

Oh yes he did. Saying things like they are in jail what do you expect and cry me a river in response to post describing instances of rape and torture of Palestinian women is doing exactly that.

No this is just your disgusting hate speaking. Your desire to dehumanise the Palestinians so that a genocide may be committed on them.

 

Disgraceful. I expect that somewhere in the world there will be retaliatory force-feeding of pork to rabbis.
The real Jewish community should not have to suffer for the actions of neoZionist fascists.

 

As far as I know is right in this prison such scum jailed where I have no mercy with!

People have often the problem to understand, that this issue here of Palestinians and Israel has like a coin 2 sides!

Yes, Israel is doing bad often enough too ... and as I still wrote are these illegal Jewish settlements simply a crime. Someone must think about that you are farmer and having whatever acres of land and one morning you wake up and see that during last night was a settlement build on it and you have no legal rights to do anything against it, because you are no Jew but Palestinian!
But also Yes ... the Palestinians do much worse crimes too out of this long conflict where people go in discussion about for centuries and millenniums back to reason their point! Fact is that HAMAS and others are no heroic Rebels and Freedom Fighters, but simply Jihadist terror scum which killed with intention innocent people and often enough without any Israeli "action" before!
And right this scum is sitting in this prison as far as I know!

 

Well, it's a tricky subject. On one hand - I assume the hunger strike is part of conflict between inmates and Israel government, or jail administration. On the other hand - they are still humans, and if any of them will get to point where they will be in danger of inevitable death without food (human said to be capable of surviving without food for up to six weeks, but everything has it's boundaries, after all) - the forced nutrition becomes rather a life-saving measure, than an act of abuse. Like blood transfusion. So... ...sincerely, I think it may be deserving a whole own thread to discuss it..

 

If a barby doesn't break the strike nothing will.

 

Just like paradise, eh Dutch? You don't obviously understand that the loss of freedom is the salient point here, not what few 'luxuries' are enjoyed by inmates.