Israel's Nuclear Arsenal

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  1. CaptainAngryPants

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    Since the Israeli government neither confirms nor denies having nuclear weapons how would anyone actually know if they really have them or not? It could simply be a gigantic bluff. If anyone has anything besides anecdotal evidence of these weapons I'd like to see it.
     
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    Easy, we have a money hungry lying traitor to play the tune for the CTs to bob their heads to.
     
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    How can we give "evidence" that doesn't exist(since Israel will neither confirm nor deny, there can be nothing but anecdotal evidence). But there's a thread on this topic already, highlighting the Israeli-France nuclear discussions, JFK's letter to Israel as well as Israeli stolen nuclear technology from the Keystone State(PA).

    In addition to the Chemical Weapons fiasco, it's Israel that needs to sign the NPT. I fear an Israeli attack far more than I do an Iranian attack. If I were Head of State, I'd tell Israel that any diplomatic or militaristic pressure on Iran or other "rogue" nations, first must be met with an NPT/Chemical Weapons signing, and I'd like to see Israel engage in Direct talks with Iran on the Nuclear Problem.
     
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    This is even less than anecdotal evidence.
     
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    Have the Israelis done any testing? Not that I know of.

    Nuclear weapons are temperamental and unreliable. This is the reason the US and USSR did hundreds of tests. Duds.

    We've seen the NorKs and Pakis have duds.

    No tests = no nukes.
     
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    I think that's probably pretty close to the level of response we can expect from the holocaust deniers.
     
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    Funny huh, a large, secret nuclear arsenal, ready for launch......but no tests. I wonder how they did that? Gee whiz those Jews really are smart.
     
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    It's plainly obvious that you're not worth talking to. Here's the definition of Anecdotal:

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/anecdotal

    Everything I listed is verified to have happened, all you need to do is research it if you're really interested.

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    See this as well while we're at it: Up to date for you: http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-israel-nuclear-weapons-20130915,0,4117406.story
     
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    Thank you for providing more anecdotes.
    Here's the definition of proof....
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/proof
     
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    I see, so now circumstantial evidence constitutes proof. I wonder how they tested the weapons without anyone finding out about it?
     
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    Look up the Vela Incident.
     
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    Highly disputed, completely unverified.
     
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    Like everything related to the Israeli nuclear program.
     
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    In the absence of actual information you can pick and choose the truth at your convenience. I read somewhere that the US government is holding the bodies of aliens who crashed at Roswell. I know it must be true because I read it somewhere.
     
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    The book "The Samson Option", the fact that it's author was imprisoned for releasing state secrets by Israel (why would they do that if the information was false?), and the fact that Presidet Carter stated openly that Israel possesses nuclear weapons are pretty good examples of evidence.
     
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    I've read some very compelling books about Bigfoot. They must all be true because why would the authors lie? I can't begin to imagine why someone would lie in a situation like that.
     
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    When was the last time a former US president talked about Bigfoot or when has someone gone to prison for writing a book about Bigfoot?

    Your comparison is idiotic.
     
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    In other words: there's absolutely nothing to substantiate the author's claims, no independent verification, just some guy who wrote a book and went to prison. Unverified means unverified.
     
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    I heard some idiot say Israel maintains a nuclear arsenal for the purpose of intimidating their neighbors. I wonder how they do that with weapons that don't officially exist?
     
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    Why would a rogue regime that thumbs its nose at INTL law confirm its weapons? Israel is as radical, as violent and as despotic as Radical Islam. When and if the American Empire declares its neutrality from the parasitic "host", we'll see how Israel truly responds on the world stage.
     
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    Do you live in some alternate reality were there are good guys and bad guys?
     
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    I used to think that way, too.

    But I was mistaken.
     
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    I tend to think we live on Planet Earth where there's a way of life we either accept or condone. We all make mistakes in life and we tend not to hold people to them, but when mistakes become repeated, it's not a mistake but a "philosophical approach".

    True in that they don't fly planes into bombs and they don't openly speak about treasonous actions.

    But instead, through covert organizations and through "self-defensive" justifications, they can continue for example building illegal settlements.

    Since Jimmy Carter and JFK found it important enough to address the issue, I think it's intellectually false to compare this to a big foot/U.F.O issue. This is very legitimate and real on the World Stage, and it's only proper to either ask for them to sign the NPT or the CW Resolution, or otherwise give these weapons up.
     
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    I see, so Israel bad, Palestine good, Jews bad, Muslims OK. I'll bet some people even believe that if Israel gave the Palestinians everything they say they want all the problems of the middle east would vanish. Israel would live in peace with their neighbors, the lamb will lie down with the lion, cats and dogs will live in harmony forever.
     
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    Given that Britain should've never had a mandate on the territory to begin with, and given the outright invasion by the Jewish on former Palestine, yes it pretty much is and was an Act of Warfare. Had any other State done so, it would equally be called an act of warfare. The invasion of Palestine is proof in of itself of special treatment.

    If Israel had any true interests in the well being of the Palestinian People, I'm sure they would come to the table. But when "your masters" are the ones that control your "aid."


    http://www.voanews.com/content/reuters-israel-blocks-eu-aid-to-west-bank-palestinians/1710759.html I can only imagine how that feels.

    I have absolutely no respect for the modern Soviet State that's otherwise Israel. I'll grant you this: It's unlikely that the conquerers will let go of the territory nor is it likely that it can be restored VIA INTL. Law for many reasons including up to your false Jewish Symphony.

    Which means a true independent state for Palestine will have to come elsewhere. As I outlined in my political thesis post, I'd like to find some empty, abandoned territory and place the Palestinians there.

    Between the malefic behavior of the Palestinian Saga and it's refusal to sign treaties that we ourselves have signed has confirmed what this regime is on the World Stage to me. If this is our "ally", then we equally have no enemies.
     

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