It’s time to split this country up

I’ve given up hope. It’s time for a divorce. I propose the following terms ...

Washington, Oregon and California form the country Cascadia. If southern Cal wants to split off on their own, by all means.

The 13 colonies form, “Original Recipe America.”

And everything in between becomes “Trumpistan” or whatever you want to call it.

It has to be done. The is no foreseeable reconciliation between the Left and Right. If you have a better plan, propose it. If you think this country is worthy of holding together, state your case.

 

But see, the Northern Californians want nothing to do with the Southern Californians.

California alone would have to be divided into at LEAST 3 separate countries.

The tax problems!

Best to let it all fall apart on its own.

 

Why do EXACTLY what nefarious people like Putin and ISIS want?

 

I can't remember.... what step is negotiation again??

 

The country of “America” would be everything EXCEPT for the Boston-Washington megalopolis, the Pacific Coast, and Hawaii. Those areas would be called “Anti-America”.

 

Except that california, oregon, and washington were settled by real men. Giving that prime real estate up to these.... people who are really just interlopers is hardly fair to their legacy.

The basic theory is that one way high intelligence is gained is from harsh environments. If you don't have to worry about winter, you die. That necessity to save your seed for next year even though it's mid january and everybody is cold and hungry means that the stupid die in february. The same is true for any type of environment which requires preparation for seasonal variations.

why do you think the left is so adamant when it comes to a transfer of wealth? They're not umm... ready to survive without it, and that's why they are so quick to resort to violence whenever that transfer is being considered.

No, I don't think we should just let them have where they are. Give them the yukon, and put a rope around it for twenty years. Come back afterwards and only the most intelligent will have survived, thus they will be welcomed back with open arms.

 

Splitting up The United States would certainly make America great again.

 

What constitutes a "real man"?

 

Because irrespective of whether Putin wants it, it's staring us right in the face. Either we become a centralized union in word and deed, or we agree to a dissolution. Because the original vision of a federal republic with autonomous States led to this political divide.(Well, I find myself envious of the British political system of all things, due to their numerous parties. It ensures everyone gets a say.)

And while I want to become a centralized State, I don't want to do so by force. That's only a temporary stop gag measure. If we don't believe in the essence of the United States of America, then we can never meet our full potential.

 

I blame Lincoln.

Seriously.

 

America has survived worse. Six years will go by and Democrats may run decent candidates without all the string pulling and race fixing. They could actually work for the working class and entice people to vote for them again.

 

Put this into perspective!

A very small MINORITY wants to DISSOLVE America and they want to do it in order to retain their "white supremacy"!

The vast MAJORITY either does NOT want to dissolve the nation or does not give a crap.

Only fools want to give ISIS and Putin a divided nation that will be less effective in the world.

Eliminate the MONEY from politics and you will have your multiparty system. Evidence for that is happening RIGHT NOW as Progressive Candidates who have REJECTED money from PAC's have OUTRAISED their opponents with nothing but INDIVIDUAL donations.

As an American who has sworn an oath to defend our nation from both foreign and domestic enemies I will not stand for those who want to DESTROY America from within.

 

Then rip off your democrats membership card and join the Republicans.You don't want to end up living in the liberal version of the Soviet Union, do you? Or perhaps you like totalitaritian systems, where everyone must speak the same, where everyone must think the same erc...

 

I am an Independent that wants NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with any party that would endorse and elect a racist scumsucker like your BLOTUS!

 

I agree with you post. Ideally we’d find a way to unite (or at least be able to compromise) despite our differences, but that is looking more and more like a pie-in-the sky pipe dream.

The only way (IMO) to save the country requires political reform, which in this climate would be virtually impossible to pull off. Could we, for instance, switch from a winner-take-all method of selecting legislators to a more fair proportional form of representation? Why would either party support such a move when it’s guaranteed to weaken their power?

If we can’t reform the system, then we have to muddle through with what we have, and what we have is failing. I blame that partly on the system, and partly on the difficulty of satisfying the needs and desires of a population with vastly different needs and goals. Trump’s wall is seen by many as the only way to keep this country safe and secure, while my side sees it as an inhumane monstrosity of unnecessary waste that won’t solve the problem. And that’s just one example. Whether it’s abortion, taxes, guns, social services, personal liberties, or any number of issues, we simply want different outcomes. At this point, i’m ready to give them their plot of land, and the opportunity to live their lives as they see fit.

 

Perhaps we could create an exchange program- Central America or any other country that sends us an immigrant who passes muster gets a democrat/progressive/liberal exported in return. The exports would have even more things to complain about in the new country, and as that seems to be their great purpose in life they should be pleased as much as the immigrants they replaced.

 

I do have a better plan...in some ways easier and in other ways harder than yours. We know he won't change who he is, so why let him live - rent free - in your mind. Why waste your breath on redundant criticisms of his failures and embarrassments as a human being. Let the right become an echo chamber and wait for him to make a massive, constitutional error that is grounds for his removal.

 

I would think Central America should get conservatives in exchange, as they prefer the militaristic, authoritarian regimes that have often ruled there.

Plus, think of all the fun they could have with guns. They’re natural fits.

 

Because “massive constitutional error” sounds synonymous with “massive civilian casualties.”

I’d like to avoid that.

 

Remember how well that turned out the last time?

 

Perhaps a simpler solution would be for you to leave. You seem to be the one that has the most pressing problem.

 

if you’re unable to live among people who don’t share your views then maybe you might want to find a spot out in the wilderness, build a cabin and enjoy your time alone. At least you’ll be with someone who shares your opinions.
For me, I like being around people who have different opinions. How boring life would be if we all thought the same way. To each his own.

 

Of course that is BS. The conservatives want the government to be smaller, more transparent, more cohesive with the constitution and more responsive to the people- and especially, to become an institution of higher integrity and ethics.

If you think law and order is "authoritarian", then you may be right in that respect. We approve of changing flawed laws, but respecting them until they are changed. The left thinks you should just ignore those laws you don't agree with, and make up your own. They think like small spoiled children, and that conduct sees respect for law and order as ruled, as authoritarian.

Exported to Central America, they would soon BS their way in to power, and become the dictators, and could make up or ignore their own laws according to the mood of the day...
Happy campers.

 

Everybody on the Lewis & Clark Expedition except Sacajawea's French husband.

 

But that’s assuming it requires war to happen.

The Soviet Union broke up without resorting to civil war.

Britain left the European Union with a simple majority vote.