Italian Leader Visits US to talk with Trump in Private

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  1. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The interesting aspect of this visit is why it is being held now.

    Why?

    Because it is a follow up to the AG Barr three day visit to Italy a few weeks ago.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-barr-italy-idUSKBN1WH1L0

    Italian intelligence agencies were blackmailed to spy on the Trump campaign because those same agency leaders turned their heads and probably profited from the Koch Glitsch transfer as well. Misfud was used and the Italian intelligence services coordinated with the FBI and CIA regarding George Papadoupolis and their concern that he knew about the scandal. He was first set up while he worked for Marco Rubio.

    From the sounds of the remarks that the Italian leader made today, the Koch-Glitsch Italia equipment transfer was talked about.

    Sad that a US president can't talk about corruption over the phone. It takes a face to face meeting to get it done.
     
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    Margot2 Banned

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    How were the Italians blackmailed and who blackmailed them?
     
  3. Right is the way

    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    This are off lately that is for sure. A VP useing corrupt tactics to kill an investigation is ok, but a president saying I would like some help in stopping corruption from happening is wrong. If what sleepy joe did was ok he should have welcomed the invitation, because it would have proven he did nothing wrong.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama used Koch Glitsch - Italia to backdoor high volume transfer technology equipment that Putin needed to complete his Crimean pipeline.
    Putin wanted the pipeline to be set up to transfer natural gas in either direction... AKA To be able to pump gas back North once the natural gas reserves under the Black Sea would become available.

    Obama did this while sanctions were in place and profited from it as well.

    Koch - Glitsch Italia at the time was being run by Natalia Cherenkova and Elena Romanova.

    The Italian, Rienzi lead, government not only knew about it, but shared in the kickback. So their cooperation in targeting Papadoupolis in early 2016 was not only expected, but assured.

    Remember, Papadoupolis was working for Marco Rubio early in 2016 and not yet for Trump.

    The counter-intelligence surveilance was all about covering Obama's backside before it was transformed into an attempt to spy on the Trump campaign.



    Obama and Rienzi met in secret recently......

    Will Barr and Durham go after this scandal? Time will tell !
     
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    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was going to snip your entire post after the word "Why?," until I read your last sentence. Leaders of foreign nations cannot talk to Trump on the phone, because we have deep state haters that will leak content of their conversation, or blab about it at their kid's birthday party to anyone who cares to listen.

    The leakers we know of are just the ones who have gone public. We probably have deep state traitors leaking their inside information to anyone and everyone, foreign or domestic. But we only hear about the ones who leak first or third hand information to the news media, or to Adam Schiff.
     
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    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Crazy, isn't it.

    It is impeachable for Trump asking to help investigate possible corruption by Biden in china and Ukraine, to make Hunter a few million bucks.

    Biden possibly engaging in that corruption earns him front runner status in the Democratic primary.


    We need to impeach Trump for asking to investigate Biden for interfering in an ongoing criminal investigation in Ukraine, by using $1.5 billion to blackmail Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating the company Hunter Biden was sitting on the board on directors for.

    Meanwhile.... Biden possibly engaging in that corruption earns him front runner status in the Democratic primary.
     
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  7. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is the old, "Do As I Say, Not As I Do," routine.

    Biden's own words....

    “They were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, … we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, ‘You have no authority. You’re not the president.’ … I said, call him. I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. … I looked at them and said, ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.’ Well, son of a bitch. He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.”

    This is nothing less than a public admission of a high crime !!!
    And the Left has the audacity to say that Trump shouldn't look into it?
     
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    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yup. because Biden is running for elected office.

    Problem is, Biden has done nothing but run for public office non stop, since he was first elected to office in 1972. So guess he has been immune from criminal investigations since 1972.
     
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