It's not about sex, it's about attraction

People are born with a compulsion towards a certain gender, usually the opposite one. This is how animals which rely purely on instinct are usually hardwired towards heterosexuality on a biochemical level - nature couldn't possibly rely on chance for this.

Homosexuality defeats that object, but nature sometimes makes "mistakes". Even if it made that mistake 2-5% of the time, it wouldn't be an issue - 95-98% are still procreating.

 

Yep they are, and you will toss out the old show me the test for a gay gene statement yet again .. even though there is plenty of research that shows our physical gender is not always the same as our mental gender . .which you simply ignore.

 

of course I will ask you to prove that one is "born homosexual"

I never once claim that heterosexual was anything but a choice for me due to my upbringing. I'm confident that if I was butt raped, or treated in a way so as to be feminine, that I would have chosen the homosexual path.

 

At what point did you CHOOSE to be heterosexual. I mean you had a CHOICE and you didn't have feelings for one or the other (that's if you wern't born with a choice). when did you choose?

See I have ALWAYS been attracted to the opposite sex and not the same sex. There was no choice about it. Why wouldn't homosexuality be the same?

So when a lesbian is raped by a straight guy, she just turns heterosexual huh? There were some sick (*)(*)(*)(*)s in the 80s and 90s that thought that too. They were proven wrong. Wow your ideology really is (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up.

thinking that rape changes your attraction. What about the women who AREN'T abused or RAPED, who are lesbians, such as Dick Cheney's daughter.

 

Neither.

 

Sad news to report. Nuance isn't for everyone.

 

I had to figure that one when I was presented with a false dilemma.

 

There's something quite disturbing about all of this.

 

Your position is complete and utter nonsense - more in favor of slippery slope arguments than anything else.

 

So how do you explain the fact that most gay people were neither "butt raped" nor feminized growing up? Nearly every gay guy I know has a typical masculine father (because most of them had trouble accepting the fact they're gay).

Guess that blows your little theory out of the water.

By the way I was friends with a kid at school who was pretty feminine, and still is, and he's now married to a woman with kids...

It proves nothing.

 

Actually you could not be sure of anything .. there are more than enough people who grew up without any of the things you stated above happening to them who are were and are still homosexual, just as there those who did have these things happen and were still heterosexual.

Your overall problem is that you can do nothing but focus on the physical as that is the only way you can accept your inane ideology, anything that actually makes you think you ignore.

Can you please point out anywhere in my comments on this thread where I say you claim anything about your so-called choice?

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I would disagree.

 

Okay, that's your right, and who am I to say you are wrong? Perhaps you are right.

For me it doesn't really matter, and they're is no real way to prove anything.

 

Yep, there are even anti-gay sick (*)(*)(*)(*)s that think that you can "rape" the gay away. They think if you take a lesbian and have multiple males raping her will "cure" her of her "illness".

 

depends on what people decide is proof enough, for some on here no matter the amount of proof it would never be enough. All I know is that there is a growing body of evidence that certainly points to the effect that the variation in hormones in pregnancy have on how the brain develops ie a lack of testosterone will make the brain develop in a more feminine way. We already know that all brains start out as female and it is the direct influence of various hormones that change the brain from female to male.

Is this homosexuality .. I really can't say, but it would give evidence to suggest that homosexuality is something a person is born with.

 

Keep the link to this thread


We saw a REMARKABLE thing on it yesterday......sec stating that he believes that even if a man is sexually attracted to other men....he's "not homosexual if he never has homosexual sex."


Anybody who needs an explanation for why sec holds that theory...I'll be happy to PM you. Though I think most know it already.

 

I can accept a predisposition.

 

I'm afraid the criticism isn't nearly specific enough to be interesting.

Not surprisingly, you have no understanding of masculinity.

 

You understand that masculine doesn't mean straight right?

 

Imagine if you asked people, especially women, in the 1950s, 60s, even 70s...

"Do you think Rock Hudson is masculine?"

 

Not surprisingly you don't have anything of value to say.