Its time for Baltimore blacks to look inward

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Time and time again black "leaders" blather about how young blacks in Baltimore have no jobs and no future.

    IMO they have bought into the BS spread by the likes of Al Sharpton and his victim crap. Instead why isnt he Obama and others telling young black to stay in school, and at least get a HS diploma? Does the Baltimore schools offer wood working and auto shop? If they dont they should. Teach classes like these instead of wasting money on multicutural nonsense. School counselors should be guiding students into studies that lead to jobs. If these young kid stay out of drugs and gangs, there is also the military that will train them in high paying jobs in electronics and the like when they get out. Then too the military will provide money for college education.

    Again blacks need to look inward and take charge of their own lives, be personally responsible, and quit buying into the victimhood preached by fools like Sharpton, Jackson, and Obama.
     
  2. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pondering this even further, I think it is child abuse for fools like Sharpton to tell young blacks they are vicims, stupid, have no future, and must depend on the government for hand outs.
     
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    Those that can demonstrate independence through education and employment, cannot be as easily controlled, as those with no future prospects, who are dependent upon the assistance of others to get by. It is like animals in the zoo, being unable to survive outside of their controlled environment.
     
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    They will never look inward until lefties stop telling them they are victims. That will never happen because lefties need their votes. Telling someone the system is against them is a way of keeping them hopeless. Telling them that "whitey republicans" are out to get them keeps the sheep in line and running to lefties for protection.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The two prior posters are exactly right. Liberals and democrats WANT to keep blacks down, and keep them on the democrat plantation, for their vote.
     
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    Everyone regardless of race needs to be held accountable for their actions and decisions they make in life. But what has spread in especially the black community is what you said. They are victims, but also it is being pounded into them they are not responsible for their own situation, it is somebody else or something else.

    All kids needs guidance and discipline, when any kid errs or does something wrong, makes a wrong decision which may effect the rest of his life he needs to be told and if need be, corrected. So the question is who is around to do that? A 67% single parent family rate among blacks tells me the father isn't. I am sure some of the single moms tries hard to provide that discipline and guidance as seen by that mom who rapped her son in the head when she found out he was part of the rioters. She should be Times Man of the Year in my book. But how many moms are doing that?

    The solution, cure lies within the community itself. The community needs to get as mad at black on black crime, black on black killings as they were at the police in both Ferguson and Baltimore. Until they do, their situation will not improve. My opinion.
     
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    Bingo, your right, the Democrat Party knows what the problems are. But to fix it might just make Blacks think they don't need the Party to make it. They want Blacks to feel dependent on them and will do anything in their power to keep it that way. So they keep lying to them.
     
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    Political leaders in Baltimore certainly did look inward, and responded to the actions of last Monday night with an overwhelming and unified condemnation of the behavior of these thugs. Surrounding communities contributed police and first responders to containing the violence and looting.

    The legacy of 1968 loomed large in everyone's mind, and no one was going to see it happen again.

    All of this is in direct contrast to your claim.

    I would like to know where these graduates of "woodworking" and "auto shop" are going to get jobs.

    Many of the people who live in these neighborhoods communte, ride the bus, or carpool to work in the suburbs, because there are not jobs in northwest Baltimore.

    Contrary to your false claim, Obama did condemm these thugs (using that term too), and has not preached the sort of "plantation mentality" meme that is popular with white racists.

    I haven't paid any attention to Sharpton, so I can't comment on him.

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    Oh look, another right wing circle jerk!
     
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    You might want to educate your self in regard to such matters before voicing baseless opinions.



    Yes, of course. What prevented you from taking the initiative and learning the answer to your question?

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    I wonder how much personal responsibility the original poster would have had if he was born to a single, working mom in an inner city neighborhood, where opportunity is defined by either drug selling or sports?

    It's easy to judge when you don't have to walk in their shoes.
     
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    Oh please. Woe is me. :roll:

     
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    Racism is nowhere near as bad as lefties claim. They certainly cannot back their claims up with facts. But as long as they can convince blacks that there is a KKK member behind every tree then the fear mongering will keep them running to democrats for protection. Democrats are like the pharmaceutical companies that create a phony health condition that they already have a phony cure for in order to make a profit.
     
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    Then Conservatives should do something about it: Namely, make a better platform that will attract African-Americans to vote for Conservatives. The hard part is convincing African-Americans on the conservation of the State as a means for progress, when the State to them looks to be what is "oppressing" them. Liberals have mastered this propaganda to an artform.

    As a result, African-Americans see the natural state of a Republican as racist. Counteracting this Propaganda is the first part of winning the Black Vote. And it starts by promoting African-American conservatives in their ranks. Mia Rose was one such great example. Surely, there are others as well. If the State is not seen as oppressive, but as a place of opportunity then Democratic lies will diminish.

    The second part, is to move a bit towards the Center. Compromise will be necessary, and there are some initiatives though "Liberal" in nature, would work to conserve the State. By moving towards the Center and enacting common sense reform, we would have nudged ahead of Democrats who can no longer claim to be the Populist party.

    Propaganda is the biggest force in politics. Our Propaganda must spread across all ranks of Americans.
     
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    I always get a chuckle when someone who spends their days making blog posts criticizes the President of the United States as being a bad roll model for black kids ...

    Also, you might want to google My Brother's Keeper.



    On second thought, forget it. Your mind is already locked on the victimhood preached by Hannity and Limbaugh.

    Or you could prove me wrong, and actually look at the Brother's Keeper thing ...

    Naw, that would destroy your comfortable narrative and might get you called a "pinhead" on Fox ....
     
  15. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But the question is------------did that kid of that single mother stay in school, stay out of gangs and drugs, and take classes in school that could lead to a job. Or did he think about joining the military and get schooling there????
     
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    Who are your "lefties" and what have they been telling you?

    Do you believe there are causative contributory factors to poverty and crime, or is it just a matter of racial superiority/inferiority?
     
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    Of course, he's a bad role model. He unwittingly fell into the rut of academic achievement that led to his twice being elected to the highest office in the land, and bringing relentless abuse by Angry White Guys upon himself.

    The uppity fellow was just asking for it!


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    How do I know? And I'm certainly not saying some of those kids don't have challenges before them. But you never know if one friend, mentor, father figure, teacher, etc could get through to him/her that they do have other choices to make in life. I don't accept that they're born into doom and gloom.

    And I certainly believe that the liberal entitlement policies and the race baiters out there aren't helping the situation. They're making it worse.

     
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    Then what has occurred is the complete failure of the Progressive National Socialist experiment in big government, welfare, and education using cities like Baltimore, Detroit, Ferguson, Rochester and Chicago as their examples of success. Rather they must be held up as abject failures.
     
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    Yet, from those same cities, we also see examples of success from kids who have grown and have successful businesses and careers.

    That's the problem - many Conservatives are pessimists. They will always look at a population, find 10% bad and immediately state that the whole population is bad - a failure.
     
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    think you made a typo, you meant republicans and conservatives didn't you

    seriously though, the left wants to help the poor, the right is the ones that seem to want them to die out

    an artificial bottom helps not only the poor, but all of society, Mexico has the system republicans want, yet I do not see anyone in any hurry to go to Mexico to live
     
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    Al Sharpton doesn't tell black people that they must depend on the government. But he is realistic about the fact that it's harder for a black person to succeed. He's trying to change this, and some conservatives really hate him.

    It's harder for a black male to get a job than a white male.

    A black male with an associates degree has the same chance of getting a job as a white male with just a high school diploma.
     
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    One must question the results. In this case the successes as you claim can be counted on one hand or less, while the failures are much higher in the 70 to 90 percent. Why is it that unemployment in your fair city is above 35% and the crime rate is ninth in the nation overall. If there is police brutality within the city of Baltimore one has to consider that the police force is staffed at 63% Afro-American and 37% other ethnicity's. Are you vilifying the black police officers as criminal, corrupt and abusive?
     
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    Did you ever think that maybe they don't know how too? 1. 80% of black children are born to young girls who are not married. 2. Young black men are not stepping up and taking responsibility for their illegitimate offspring. 3. Society in most cases picks up the cost of these childbirths. 4. The children in most cases become wards of the state through welfare, WIC, food stamps, Medicaid, subsidized housing. 5. They grow up to be sent to sub-standard schools taught by many unionized sub-standard teachers. 6. They are many cases fed breakfast and lunch at the schools at taxpayer expense. 7. They are coddled and mislead that they are successful and given a false sense of hope. They are not taught the reality that failure is part of life and that many of them will be left behind. 8. On the street they find some comfort in playing basketball, sex, drugs and a feeling of belonging when invited to join a gang. 9. Many watch their family struggle with meager wages from dead-in jobs and the situation at home never gets better. (Not like on TV anyways). 10. When it comes time for many to enter the work world they find out they are unable to obtain a job. (They think it's society. What many don't understand is that they are not qualified or lack the education.) 11. Many graduate from high school only to find out they have to retake many courses to be able to qualify for entrance. 12. Many of the young go on to repeat the mistakes of their mothers. 13. Many turn to drugs and alcohol. 14. Many will be killed by their own kind. (90% of all black deaths by violence is a black on black crime)

    So what needs to be done?
    1. More business needs to invest in the inner city. - WHY? So their stores can be looted, robbed and burned down?

    2. More money for education. WHY? So teachers can keep getting paid the big bucks and passing failing children through school so that they will feel good about themselves?

    3. More Social programs. WHY? Haven't we already lied enough about how we can help you and make your lives better if you re-elect us?
     
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    The matter of whether or not employment can be achieved was not the question. Rather the question is why black leaders are not encouraging their fellow blacks to pursue self improvement trough staying in school to get an education. An answer was given. The answer is that those who can demonstrate independence cannot be as easily controlled as others.

     

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