It's Time To Admit Global Warming Is Getting Worse

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    557 Well-Known Member

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    You folks should read Bowerbird’s “source”. The MWP was not a synchronous event, meaning changes were not identical globally or at the exact same time. But the MWP, even if mis-named was not isolated—it was a global phenomenon. Even Wikipedia gets that right.
     
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    The “warming” occurred in different hemispheres at different times

    As someone living in the Southern Hemisphere this was one of the first things I noticed. Seeing how complex the oceanic currents and interplay of wind and ocean are I am not surprised it is taking time to solve this puzzle
    I.e.

    http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/
     
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    Exception? Come again? Global climate is a well defined, often discussed concept. Your “interpretation” (or unsubstantiated opinion if you want to invoke epistemology) of what climate refers to is incorrect on any level.

    Confusion indeed.
     
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    Using your terminology, your statement the MWP was not a global phenomena was bulltwang. Anyway, glad you read your source finally and accepted what it said instead of continuing to report on what it doesn’t say. Progress!

    It’s funny your pull quote source above refers to global climate. Further demonstrating climate is not only local…and global climate is not some rare exception. Thanks for helping me clear up the “confusion” on that issue as well. :)
     
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    How can you call it truly “global” when it occurred in different parts of the world at different times?


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    https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2019/07/24/climate-epochs-that-werent/
     
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    Lots and lots of snow, in California's Mendocino!

    [​IMG]https://www.msn.com › en-us › weather › topstories › nws-cold-snap-could-bring-snow-to-mendocino-county-this-week › ar-AA17LSpm
    NWS: Cold snap could bring snow to Mendocino County this week

    'As a cross-country winter storm brings snow, ice and cold air from the Midwest to New England through the end of the week, record-challenging heat will build in the southern portions of the...'';

    Brrr! We could sure use a little of that "global warming" right about now!

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    Cool, so when are we gonna deal with Chinas emissions?

    ohhh…that’s right, global warmists are all about the politics not the science, hence why they don’t care about china or their own personal carbon footprints which can be as high as the sky.

    tell me libs, what personal sacrifices have any of you made in your lives to curb carbon emissions?

    yeah. Didn’t think so.
     
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    A “period” is a defined progression of time, not a single point in time. Hence the term Medieval Warming Period. As I alluded to earlier, it’s a bit mis-named in that warming, and actually cooling in some areas, was not uniform. But the term “period” in the name is intentional. A global phenomenon doesn’t have to be a certain temp. (or another factor like precipitation) increase or decrease worldwide simultaneously to be a global phenomenon.

    The southern oceans have been cooling the last few decades. That doesn’t mean AGW isn’t a global phenomenon. Where I live there has been a decrease in summer temps over the last few decades. Doesn’t mean AGW isn’t a global phenomenon. Today’s climate changes are not uniform nor are they occurring simultaneously planet wide. I don’t see how those facts refute AGW being a global phenomenon.

    Again, your most recent source confirms changes during the MWP affected the entire planet, even though not all changes involved significant warming . And makes the point the changes were not driven by “un-natural” forcing. But we don’t need a study to figure that out. Anthropogenic effects on climate were minimal at that time and limited to localized deforestation effects.
     
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    So how do we do it?
     
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    Stop exporting our emissions to China.
     
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    Hi again, 557.

    Your correction is noted. Thanks for the chat. Hope to run into you again on these pages.

    Best wishes to you and yours.
     
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