CDC justified new mask guidance based on vaccine study listed as failing peer review https://justthenews.com/politics-po...dance-based-vaccine-study-listed-failing-peer The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention cited an unpublished study from India to justify its recommendation Tuesday that fully vaccinated people "wear a mask in public indoor settings in areas of substantial or high transmission" of COVID-19. That study, which claimed the Delta variant produced an unusually large viral load in more than 100 vaccinated healthcare workers with "breakthrough infections," was listed as having failed peer review in the journal Nature when the CDC cited it.
Here is why people do not trust the CDC. That was the director, telling us all, that once you are vaccinated... the masks can come off! She lied. She lied. She lied. All you are really telling us all is that either the vaccines don't work, or if they do work, it doesn't matter... the Authoritarians are going to force us to mask up anyways.
Go put on a 3ply mask and try to blow out a candle. Then attempt to understand that anything covering your mouth limits the potential volume and coverage area of COVID containing bodily spew and THATS why you wear a mask.
Yeaa... the combined knowledge of hundreds of thousands of doctors, researchers, scientists, engineers, and healthcare administrators over the past nearly 100 years was all just one giant setup for COVID. Does that sound right to you?
Fake News. "CDC’S NEW MASK GUIDANCE BASED ON FAILED STUDY: Turns out, Just the News reports this morning, that our betters have no problem depending upon a study that failed peer review to justify their new mask guidance." https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/464534/ It's all screw ups and lies with these folks. Never have "experts" looked more dishonest and unqualified than today.
Beds are filling up once again with patients who contracted the delta variant and mostly those who are unvaccinated so please don't say it's not true when it is a fact.
Heh, so let met get this straight. One website, one part of a huge peer review chain, didn't give it a pass and so that means it has to be entirely invalidated? Mmmm, no. Doctors reviewing and revising and agreeing and disagreeing and forming a consensus over time is how medicine works.
And anyone who has two brains cells to rub together knew this was very likely as with the flu shot and still getting the flu. Most vaccinated people who do get the virus don't end up in a hospital taking up beds. Seems the unvaccinated by a very high percentage rate are ending up in hospitals and taking up beds that other folks who have other illnesses could be using. And it's only getting worse.
Maybe the government should stop lying and playing politics, then, and more people would trust the vaccines (which apparently don't work anyway).
Yes, that remains a goal for you because you aren't there yet. Well. Are you terming the Journal Nature, to be "just one website"? Name a single part of this "huge chain" that has validated the claims from this single Indian study. There is a name for folks who make national policy based on unvalidated single source studies. They are know as "fools". Name the Doctors who have formed a consensus that this single study is valid. Give me your understanding of "replication" and how it interacts with the confirmation process.
They don't work because a few people are getting sick with the virus? How many are ending up in a hospital compared to those people who are not vaccinated and got the virus? Wouldn't knowing that be important?
No, they apparently don't work because vaccinated people are now being advised to put the masks back on, lol. Which is it? Vaccines work and you don't need a mask, or you need a mask because the vaccines don't work? Pick one. They're mutually exclusive.
There is zero shortage of hospital beds. Quit with the scare tactics so you can push Authoritarianism.
You talking airflow through an orifice mate !? some experience with flatulence do ya ? simple simon met a pie mon and all that. Tell me what the average mask looks like .. how loose it is fitting - as people don't like the Darth vader experience. So while I appreciate the attempt to explain how a 3 ply mask works .. doesn't have much relevance to what is happening in the real world.
Seems like in 4 months after the second dose, the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine drops to 83%. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/p...ng-the-company-case-for-a-booster-11627579817 Given that I had my second dose in January, I'm six months removed from it. I'm getting worried. I wish a booster got authorized. Pfizer does say that there is evidence that a 3rd shot booster enhances immunity against the Delta. Of course it's in their commercial interest to say so, but this Delta is getting me nervous. Today I was shopping in a supermarket with some 50 customers. I had a mask (N95) and I saw two other persons with cloth masks... Nobody else. The others were all maskless. We're playing with fire.
Where are these beds filling up once again ? - and since Phizer is only 39% effective- think there is more than a few non vaxed in the bed .. and something is fishy given even a mild case of covid is going to cause some pheumonia -- for those succeptible .. vax or no vax.
So... when I said "attempt to understand that anything covering your mouth limits the potential volume and coverage area of COVID containing bodily spew and THATS why you wear a mask"... you went a different direction?
Very sobering news - leaked CDC internal document: https://www.yahoo.com/news/war-changed-internal-cdc-document-003045964.html 35,000 symptomatic cases of Delta per week in vaccinated individuals in the United States... 75% of new cases in heavily vaccinated Singapore, happening in vaccinated people... Vaccinated people who get Delta have the same viral load of unvaccinated people and can transmit the disease... Delta as contagious as chicken pox and more than Ebola and the common cold... This is not good. Mask up, people.
From Day 1 these people knew that Americans are very emphatic about our "freedom" and enough people weren't going to shelter-in-place, mask up or get the vaccine to stop this in its tracks. This news didn't just fall from the sky. We are notoriously hard-headed and the slightest little thing that feels like "control" gets shot down straight-away even if it's for our benefit. I have no idea what the real agenda is but I'm old enough to know "We're from the government and we are here to help" isn't anything like it sounds.
How would you know how many are in the hospital? Most people just take medicine and stay home. That's what the doctor told me wife to do and got over covid quickly. My Wife's friend is a nurse and the first time covid peaked in Iowa her hospital in Des Moines had only 7 covid patients. The rest of the hospital was empty due to only covid patients being seen. I found out when her friend said her hours was being cut due to lack of patients. This is when covid supposedly was really bad in America. Then there was the videos of nurses dancing on Tik Tok due to lack of work. I don't believe what the news is saying.
"my wife's friend".... sure. And how things are going in 1 hospital = how it goes in an entire state-logic. lol Lies. Those were educational vids. I believe nothing you wrote about that so called my wife's friend. That's just all fake news.
You did not comprehend the post you were responding to -- What part of - the masks most folks wear does not do much - thus giving a false sense of security .. did you miss ?