It's time to take the traitors at their word

So is Soylent Green, but that doesn't make it dolphin friendly. What does that have to do with violent overthrow? Is bipartisan and biracial violent overthrow KOSHER?

 

Didn't say state, and the above is incorrect. The US government hasn't declared martial law since the Civil War.

Yeah, it really sucked when Democrats did that. Incidentally deportation and holding pending is not suspension of habeas corpus. But yeah, if they start locking up US citizens of any stripe without HC, I will be a part of the resistance.

Non sequitur and not what I was talking about. I would not take up arms against the US federal govt for almost any actions done overseas unless I was not allowed to leave the country in protest of such actions.

Note I said at -all- levels, note also that those itty bitty OECD darlings don't have the same type of dual sovereignty we have. We are not too far off from the rebellion point on taxes. I consider an upper middle income to be anything 150-300k for a family of four, and that isn't based on anything other than my personal experience.

No, there most certainly hasn't been lots of nationalization and seizure of bank/investment accounts in the US ever. Amtrak is a bad example, and the railroad industry as a whole remains mixed/private.

I didn't threaten an insurrection because the items on my list would mean the federal government had ceased being a government of, by and for the people, and I owe 0 loyalty to a totalitarian state or one that enacts totalitarian measures. That said, I have always suspected this forum and other political forums are actually government "honey traps" trying to flush out domestic terrorist McVeigh types. I have absolutely NO substantiation for that, just hunches here and there. This is one reason I am always railing against the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-MSM Complex, because if places like this -were- honey traps, that Complex would deserve all our scorn for that kind of snitch culture entrapment.

 

If the government threatened my family and took away their rights then it would be my duty to fight them. To not defend the rights and lives of your family and community would make you the traitor. Just because the government says it is legal and ok does not make it so. Every sanctioned massacre of a people had the force of laws behind them.

 

Same. It's a shame.

 

Being from Texas, I fully understand the envy and jealousy that the other 49 states have to deal with. We are'nt arrogant, we're just right all the time, and y'all are not.

 

I also have no doubt that you don't have the goods to fully comprehend my first post to this forum, the totalitarian specifics in it, and that it would mean there was no longer any US of A as we know it to be loyal to.

 

"Soylent Green is PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!! ARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!"

 

Lil Mike asked this on a Lesh quote, but also included you, but you haven't answered so I'll repost it to you specifically. I'm really curious to your answer; will you stand up for anything enough to fight for it?

 

You have no problem with rule by gun. Just so long as it's the politicians that you like in charge of the enforcers. Your type is too cowardly to actually enforce any of the rules you demand be created, so you outsource it to the enforcement class. When called upon it, your type gets whingey and calls it "treason."

 

First I've heard of anyone taking this position.

You can hardly defend what you do not understand; and my guess is your understanding of what America is all about is on a par with that of Jefferson Davis.

So would it have been better for the world had the American Revolution failed, yes or no?

 

If you can't tell the difference between a foreign power and an internal conflict you have a real intellectual deficiency.

 

We're not talking about a foreign conflict. The Revolutionary War wasn't a foreign conflict, it was a rebellion. I don't mind people calling me out if I'm wrong, but don't you think you should give a moment's thought to assuming a "real intellectual deficiency" on an issue that you are wrong about that any 6th grader should know?

 

Attempts to overthrow the US Government by force are unconstitutional.

So, of course, are rigging a computerized voting system or subverting the Supreme Court to win an election.

 

I think you have said something VERY important. ATTEMPTS. Full blown coups aren't unconstitutional. Only attempts that are stopped.

 

Victors write the history, lol.

 

This thread started out as a bash the traitors for even thinking about forcibly opposing the US Government, but here's the thing.....

If this does happen we will all make our choices for who's side we're on.

The individuals for the rebellion will join because they agree with rebellion, are pressured by peers, feel obligated because their family member is, or out of fear of ending up on the losing side.
The individuals that do not will not because they disagree with the rebellion and of the same reasons I listed above.

This country was founded on a rebellion against an oppressive government (in the minds of some.....Tories), and we all have a break point of what an oppressive government is.....I hope. I also feel like no person/government deserves unquestioning loyalty. People and especially governments are imperfect and sometimes (as history tells us) needs to be put in their place. I hope everyone has the backbone to stand up and fight (with arms if necessary) for what they believe in, whatever that belief is.

 

So far the only ones creating mayhem in the streets are democrats. I think because democrats foster a sense of hopelessness in their followers the only time they feel secure is in mobs.