Janaury 22nd, Roe v Wade will have been law for 40 years...

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Gorn Captain, Jan 1, 2013.

  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I doubt it. We as a people are much to self centered to be concerned about the unborn. I am not pro-abortion but something that I am against even more is government involvement. This is a contentious issue that the public cannot agree on so I say get government out of it and keep it between you, your god, and your doctor.
     
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    Well, don't tell some of the other "pro-lifers" here....they still believe.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Why do you insist on trying to derail the debate by bringing items which have nothing to do with it?
     
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    They should be more prevalent shouldn't they? I mean there is nothing wrong with abortion is there? You would not want to deny a woman the right to her body would you? That wouldn't be nice...wouldn't be openminded or tolerant....

    Is there something wrong with late term abortion? Your leader does not think so...he is for infanticide as well.

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    The Democratic party is not the party everyone thinks it is. Its history is filled with hating blacks and denying them rights.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    and this has anything to do with abortion, because?
     
  7. churchmouse

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    And you could say this about any actions, rape, pedophelia, child porn....etc Lets just look away, if its not hurting us directly who cares.
     
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    Of course we will always work for making it illegal. But there are more people who are pro-death who celebrate the deviant than those against it. We have a corrupt court system....a SCOTUS that works on bias....who leans way left of center...so without their help nothing will change. BUT....today as Time Magazine states....our movement is making abortion harder and clinics are closing...doctors refusing to go into doing abortion. So while abortion might be legal....one day it might be impossible to get. That should not stop pro-lifers from doing what we can to make it difficult and to showcase the abortion deaths..and those that do late term abortions, clinics not meeting safety standards. WE sill can show abortion like it always was.....
     
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    AGain you are wrong. Abortion is a human issue that affects the whole of society. When you have taxpayers paying for abortions.....its involves more than the woman. Abortion is an elective surgery...like cosmetic surgery. No women has to have it to live.
    Any nimrod can get birth control...this is an excuse. Kids can get just about any kind of drug with a snap of their hand...and women can get birth control.
     
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    The criminalization of abortion affects society more. In some countries mothers with large families are jailed for botched abortions--if they live through one. The maternal death rate is much higher.

    How much exactly does it cost taxpayers for Medicaid abortions?

    Yes, in fact, many women need abortions to live. Pregnancy affects a woman's overall health, and she has the right to protect it.

    Millions of Americans don't even have enough food. Where do you get the crazy idea that anyone can get birth control?
     
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    Guttmaucher states that less than 1% of all abortion includes rape, incest and health reasons. That is the excuse of pro-choicers to want abortion legal...for the few cases which you mention. 99% are performed because women were careless and got pregnant from recreational sex.

    if you say she has the right to protect her health because its her body...then this should include late term abortion. Right?

    PP receives money from the government. Where does the government get the money? Abortion clinics get grants from the government.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/24/your-taxes-to-pay-for-abortions/

    As for hunger.....people in the US would obviously rather have sex than eat...with abortion numbers the way they are.

    Funny kids can get any drug they want today....and you say they can't get birth control. PP is in our schools....everywhere. In most states they hand it out free.
     
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    So, all those women you are telling us you help at your centre - why did they end up with an unwanted pregnancy? IF birth control is so easy - why are they pregnant? If you are working in a centre you have to be speaking to the women to find this out
     
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    Is that the message you are getting from the women you are helping at your centre - that they were careless with recreational sex? where are you getting that number?

    Meanwhile it is the 1% of women who HAVE to have an abortion to live that makes the laws useless - look at the recent case in Ireland
     
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    You disagree?

    Wrong. 88% of abortions are performed by the 12th week. A woman who has carried a pregnancy to late term has already made her decision about her body, and she will not seek an abortion except for medical reasons.

    The money PP gets from the government is for cancer screening, prenatal care, contraception and other medical services, NOT ABORTION. Medicaid pays for a minuscule number of abortions for rape, incest and health of the mother.

    Disgusting, isn't it...

    What percentage of schools hand out free condoms? Please provide proof. Please provide proof that PP is in our schools "everywhere."
     
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    Actually its the pro-life people who focus on these, foisting them onto the pro-choicers as a way of trying to diminish the medical evidence put forward. Just as they focus on late term abortions, falsely claiming that the majority are elective and no matter what is put before them they never change the tune its the same BS stated time and time again.

    Pro-lifers have no concern for the woman or the child after birth, this is their "good Feeling" battle so they can consider themselves good little Christians even though most of them don't even have the first understanding of the bible .. but I'd like to bet that they would be the first to complain if the cost of making abortion illegal and all the consequences of that were passed onto them.

    Pro-life = pro-control
     

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