Let’s do some speculation here - we can even pretend this is the basis of a science fiction story where Jan 6 is a pivotal moment in the timeline of the world and on other branches of the timeline the outcome was different The premis is that January 6 was successful. The rioters succeeded - they managed to actually catch up with Congress people disposing of or at least severely disabling a number of people including Nancy Pelosi, Chuch Schumer AOC and ‘ the squad” and Pence became frightened enough that he followed the plan and refused to ratify the results. With key democrat personnel unable to block the plan the house ratifies Trump for a second term What would have happened next? There is no “right” or “wrong” answer here - write what you like, what you WISH had happened. This is sheer speculation just for the fun of it
The feds would roll in their tanks and artillery along with 5,000 marines. Da Trumpsta would singlehandedly Disable all the tanks and all the artillery pieces. Dude with the horns would have captured all 5,000 marines and sent them to a Holiday inn, with swimming pool of course. Trump would then jump in an F15 and fly to Russia and wipe out their entire army. Then he would fly to China and do the same their, but also take out their nukes. But he would let the commies still be commies cause that’s the way Trumpsta is, a true man of peace. Then he would return to the USA and he would make America great again. This would piss off all the leftists who say “I’m moving out of the country” if he’s running it. So Trumpsta would send busses for all those people to leave on. Called the commie express we would see Stupid Xoe, Kommie, Piglosi, Ilhan, AOC, Obama, 90 % of the Hollywood elite and a lot of the members of this fine political forum right here get on the busses which Would be the start of their trip to communist paradise. A new life in North Korea. And America lived happily ever after as a free, happy, prosperous capitalist nation who became great again.
Oh sweeeeet another Jan 6th thread! We need to start therapy sessions for everyone who's clearly emotionally distraught still. Let's say they found Pelosi and cornered her? My best guess? there would be a few people that would want to physically do her harm but the majority would likely not allow it to happen and would form a barrier until authorities arrive. People were there to scream and shout and were riled up. Scare at best. Murder? Physical harm? LOL. no.
Republicans have been towing the line for decades, while Democrats have rioted, burned, looted, razed sections of cities to the ground and killed, taking over for days and weeks at a time across this nation, from the Capitol to California. But one time on one day for three hours, without killing or burning or taking over, Republicans go temporarily crazy. And Dems freak out, as if Democracy and the whole world were ending. Clearly Democrats can bear nothing. What scares them is that without Republican composure, the nation would truly end because Democrats have no self control of their own. January 6th was the day Democrats saw themselves. And but for a moment. It is funny that they pretend to lecture us about anything at all. Clearly, Republicans are the nation upon which Democrats rely and perpetually assail.
I like the way you think. Funny and as creative as Joe Biden’s “Blank Stare (sic) of the Union” speech he will try to get out of giving.
I am not looking for excuses for what happened I am asking how would it have played out had Trump succeeded in preventing the electoral college vote Lols at the defence though
But what would you think would have happened next? Would Trumpettes have gone on to that second term?
Jesus would have descended from Heaven on a cloud and said that since Trump is to have a second term His Kingdom is now truly established on Earth
Lols!! I half expect that is what many thought might happen. I have heard so many defend the big lie and tell everyone Trump should still be in power that I want to know how they think Trumps plans to stay in office would have played out
I don't really understand how that could have happened, but since it's speculative, I would think some emergency procedures would be put in place to nullify his illegal displacement of Biden. With Pence dead or permanently injured to the point he could not perform his duties as VP, Trump is required to appoint someone else, but that requires a vote so anybody blinded by his Orange Jesus holiness wouldn't get voted in. Source: https://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/replacing-the-vice-president/ I would imagine both Houses of Congress would just try to run out the clock hoping the case is heard in court before any VP appointees could be elected for the seat. I am not sure what our laws say about "voting under duress" but I would imagine that Trump and anyone that was complicit in Pence's death and involved in officials voting under duress would have to face some kind of legal proceeding. No, they wouldn't be able to arrest Trump as long as he holds the seat but a more independent VP could certainly invoke the 25th to try to get him removed. We did see some of this last year when Trump attempted to change the election date and threatened to stop Biden from being elected. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommyb...from-being-elected-president/?sh=2107b2c176f6 When those efforts failed, he ramped up disenfranchising voters that were unlike to vote for him. That's why he packed the court and appointed DeJoy who cut overtime and removed countless mailboxes and retired several mailing sorting machines. All of it was to "silence" everybody but his supporters. In reality, someone in his camp contacted his counterpart in China to let him know the US was stabilized and there were no movement toward starting a war. It was said there were concerns because Trump didn't seem emotionally well. So, my guess would be those concerns would be even greater if he forcibly took the seat and other countries' leaders would have echoes those concerns as well. And, an unstable President has a significant influence on our stock market. However, the one saving grace for all of us that know he's a snake is most of his supporters don't understand the laws surrounding our elections (otherwise, some of the dumbasses wouldn't have shown up at the Capitol). That's to be expected because he's a world class idiot, but, admittedly, an excellent con man and he doesn't know how our Constitution and laws work either. That gives the rest of us a little more room to exhale. Not much but some. I haven't awakened one day since the Inauguration with that bad feeling in the pit of stomach wondering what our President has done since I went to bed. I'm not a Biden fan either but I dislike him less (exponentially) than I dislike Trump. Biden is just out to lunch. Trump at the lunch, breakfast, dinner and three midnight snacks to keep himself energized to inflict his craziness and evilness as far and wide as he possibly can. I'm not violent or very reactionary but (and this will be hard to read) the powers that be (the people the scenes that actually runs our country regardless of who is in the Oval Office) aren't going to tolerate too much more of his nonsense and he might get himself assassinated if they ever decide he is too, too much of a liability. As it is, we're all sitting on pins and needled hoping his dumbass hasn't sold us out to the three he admires (because they are all evil and superglued to their thrones) - Xi, Putin and Jong-un. Trump desperately wants to be appointed for life and have the succession with his offspring and other descendants. He's having his very embarrassing and public nervous breakdown because some of us have told him "Hell no."
What Trump wanted from Pence and what the protestors/rioters did are two different unrelated things. But to play your game, I don't think it would have been legal. Forcing Pence to not certify (under duress)would have been a true insurrection, and they all (rioters)could have been executed for treason. But Pence did the right thing. So I suppose he would again certify the election as soon as the rioters had been arrested or otherwise put down. And Biden would be the President. As a Republican, I loathe what the rioters did.
Fair enough I do want to see what answers I will get here because I suspect there are a few who think it would have been plain sailing had the Trump plan to stay in office succeeded
If I might intrude with a reminder of the reality as the departure point for such speculative flights of fancy... Pretending that the Trump goon attack on the Congress to sabotage a democratic election was a fiction - that it was perpetrated by Black Lives Matter - or antifa - or FBI agents - or was just a typical touristy day at the Capitol - long ago became Ground Hog Day on the Hindenburg for diehard weird worshipers of one dude. Now, for them, as the disgusting details of the Trump goons' assault upon democracy are being exposed, it has become a case of sprinting past the graveyard. Run away whilst hurling vituperations at the seekers of truth, and just Nevertheless, the meticulous autopsy persists -as does the Loser's increasingly deranged 'Big Lie,' i.e., "I won in a 'LANDSLIDE!'" The Loser lost because seven million more Americans voted against him than for him. He still flaunts his impotence in accepting the will of the People but, in the real world, his demanded recounts, audits, and dozens of court challenges have only confirmed the certitude of the certified election. His lickspittles exhausted legal redresses long ago, and can only spew invectives at the ongoing pursuit of truth. The repugnant acts of Trump goons on January 6, 2021 are now a disgusting chapter in the historical record of the nation. A bit of what actually went down: On the morning of Jan. 6, Caroline Edwards, a 31-year-old United States Capitol Police officer, was stationed by some stairs on the Capitol grounds when the energy of the crowd in front of her seemed to take on a different shape... A man in front of her whipped off his jacket as if he were getting ready for something, flipped his red MAGA hat backward — and then the rioters were pushing the bike racks forward as the officers pushed back, trying to hold their balance. A sergeant standing closer to the Capitol looked over just in time to see a bike rack heaved up and onto Edwards... She crumpled to the ground, head hitting concrete, the first officer down in what would prove to be a bloody, bruising battle, the worst assault on the Capitol since 1814... The crowd howled and roared, rushing past the barricade as that sergeant started screaming into the radio orders to lock all Capitol doors... Once she got back on her feet, she stood, dazed and leaning on a railing for support, her hair loose and disheveled, as rioters flung themselves past the barriers, her colleagues punching back the few they could... Inside, near the U.S. Capitol, Devan Gowdy... heard that same call for help — frantic and high-pitched — and then his unit was sprinting through the building... Gowdy, blinking, took in a scene that seemed to have been spliced in from some other, unfamiliar world: A crowd of thousands raged before him. ... people started throwing cans, paintballs, bolts, bottles fizzing with hydrogen peroxide. One rioter he saw was wielding a hatchet with the American flag wrapped around the blade... One of Gowdy’s sergeants...who was close by, unable to move from his position lest the crowd burst through, heard the taunts and was chilled to the bone. Gowdy looked at him beseechingly, but what could he do? Gonell saw a rioter pull hard at the shield in Gowdy’s hand, the two of them rocking back and forth. Gonell thought his officer was hit hard in the head with his own shield; Gowdy only knows that a flagpole clattered to his feet just after he felt a blow. Another officer pulled him back to safety inside the building... A rioter smashed his hand with a baton. Gonell slipped on a pile of shields wet with toxic spray and feared that the rioters, grabbing his leg, his shield, his arm, would pull him apart before he was somehow able to right himself.... Edwards... spent more than an hour fighting off rioters or helping other officers on the lower west terrace of the Capitol. She was positioned near a friend from her shift, Brian Sicknick, when they were hit with chemical spray directly in their faces. Edwards’s hands flew to her eyes as she bowed down in pain and stumbled. Sicknick retreated to wash out his eyes, then returned to the fight. Another officer escorted Edwards, her lungs searing from toxic spray, away from the scene to get medical treatment... Dominick Tricoche, was off duty but drove to the Capitol after a fellow officer texted the unit’s group chat saying something serious was underway at the Capitol. Fighting, plunging into the crowd to try to help another officer who had been swarmed, he wept chemically induced tears, as if his body’s physical reaction matched the grief and terror he felt in a crowd he was certain wanted to kill him. His eyes felt as if they were merely receptacles for pain; even the air seemed to be on the attack. “Traitor! Traitor!” the rioters chanted, as someone flung a bike rack at him and he fell down a flight of stone stairs. The stone, slick and slippery with blood and tear gas, was punishing: An officer on the west front, a large man with a beard, fell hard on the stairs and was out cold for three minutes. A friend threw himself over that man’s body to protect his gun, his own hand breaking amid the trampling horde....etc. etc., etc. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/04/...&variant=1_combo_als_clicks_decay_96_50_ranks Republicans Who Voted Against Honoring the Police who valiantly defended democracy on January 6: Louie Gohmert, Michael Cloud and Lance Gooden of Texas Marjorie Taylor Greene and Andrew Clyde of Georgia, Matt Gaetz and Greg Steube of Florida Andy Biggs of Arizona Thomas Massie of Kentucky Andy Harris of Maryland Bob Good of Virginia and John Rose of Tennessee
JFK, now aged 104, would have returned to Dealey Plaza and announced he was running as Trump's VP in 2024.
Most assuredly. If the EC result wasnot validatedthe House of Representatives would select the President. As the boting is conducted by state andthe R's have a majority of states Trump would gain a second term.
Sometime late in the second term the Congress, (whichever of them were not dead or in Guantanamo) would have repealed the Term limits amendment. He would be elected to a third term by acclamation, since the policy of arresting anyone voting against him once they leave the new Giuliani Voting Booth would not be a very well kept secret. The next election would be a celebration of him being named President-For-Life or Trump I. This would consist of a ceremony to be held in the new Presidential Acclaim Forum (previously the US Capitol) wherein new members of the Trump nobility would be named and publicly perform fellatio on the Chief Executive after which he would insult and/or publicly copulate with their wives (usually both). The Cardinal of NYC and the chief Episcopalian Bishop would bless these ceremonies before joining in. The tax code would be revised so that anyone making over 1 million yearly would pay nothing and anyone making less than this amount would become their slave. The criminal code would be revised so father's having incestuous marriages with their daughters would be not only permitted but required. Jared would be reassigned as a permanent assistant to the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia with the title of Sharpener of the Bone Saws.
Let's remember that we are not aware of a single member of that angry mob actually bringing a real gun into the building. I think one or two of them may have brought a taser gun, but that was about it. The crazy guy with horns was carrying a spear.
You may not be but the FBI is aware that there was more than one https://www.statesman.com/story/new...rs-were-armed-guns-documents-show/7963993002/
Some Trump bum kisser revisionist nonsense is far more fanciful that any realistic speculations regarding likely scenarios. Trump goons. Despite the Trumpy lies, not antifa, not BLM, not FBI agents, not typical tourists. 140 outnumbered police defending democracy physically harmed by Trump goons. Mitch McConnell (R) blames Trump for deadly Capitol riot "The mob was fed lies. They were provoked by the president and other powerful people." Kevin McCarthy (R) blames Trump for riot “The president bears responsibility for Wednesday’s attack on Congress by mob rioters.” Lindsey Graham (R) calls for prosecution of rioters "Those who made this attack on our government need to be identified and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Their actions are repugnant to democracy." "You’ve got guns. Use them!" Former Attorney General William Barr (R) said the violence at the Capitol building is “outrageous and despicable."
Well, Trump would serve out his second term. What is the 'IT' you don't think would have ended? Perhaps antifa, blm and assorted groups would have gone on a rampage and burned down even more US cities. ( Trump will Actually, I expect that to happen when Trump is re-elected.) Several major US cities will become uninhabitable and takern over as CHAZ by left wing totalitarians. The National Guard would be federalized and clean out the left wing scum. Trump will make America great again.
@Bowerbird (This fun!) The cities become uninhabitable because left wing revolutionaries don't know how to keep essential services functioning. Tens of millions of refugees abandon the cities and overwhelm the suburbs whose infrastructure is also collapsing due to refugees and chaos in the cities. They join the refugees which now number 100 million. Martial law is declared but Americans won't fire on American refugees. The heartland remains mostly intact due to their self reliance and blue collar skills. They are not as reluctant to fire on the refugees to protect their families and homes. Fifty million casualties later and two hundred million dead from disease and starvation the war comes to an end. Doesn'seem all that farfetched, does it? I should write a book.
The only person killed at the Capital on 1/6 was an unarmed protester shot in the face by a Capital police officer.
