Japan's top court has approved blanket surveillance of the country's Muslims

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I am perfectly willing to believe you, but what do you have in mind?

Why did you live there for so long if it is indeed a "living hell?"

 

I lived there for many years as a civilian, and spent many deployments in Iwakuni and Okinawa.

Other than not being able to own a gun, why would "right wingers" not like it there? The only thing that got on my nerves was listening to them slurp on their soba.

 

The Japanese Muslims were awarded $880,000 for the invasion of privacy. The Japanese top court did not condone surveillance practices by the police and it rejected a lower court ruling that police surveillance was "necessary and inevitable". Basically the plaintiffs won the case and Japan's Supreme Court has not approved blanket surveillance of the country's Muslims.

 

Japanese muslims? I haven't yet heard of a Japanese muslim blowing (*)(*)(*)(*) up anyways, its always the arab guys.

Why Japan trippin on Japanese muslims lol?

 

After WWII we forced Japan to adopt a constitution almost identical to ours.

 

Reasons for Muslims to be in Japan=?
I'm going to put it right out there:They're a blight on the world.

 

pretty sure they do not have a 2nd amendment and according to this I would guess not a 1st concerning religion like ours either

 

50% wrong again.

Article 16:

Every person shall have the right of peaceful petition for the redress of damage, for the removal of public officials, for the enactment, repeal or amendment of laws, ordinances or regulations and for other matters; nor shall any person be in any way discriminated against for sponsoring such a petition.

Article 20:

Freedom of religion is guaranteed to all. No religious organization shall receive any privileges from the State, nor exercise any political authority. 2) No person shall be compelled to take part in any religious acts, celebration, rite or practice. 3) The State and its organs shall refrain from religious education or any other religious activity.
http://www.solon.org/Constitutions/Japan/English/english-Constitution.html#CHAPTER_IX

 

I said aspects of it would be a living hell for hard core American conservatives which I am not. I find it very pleasant. I did ask my jack Muslim friends last night and they said they've never been hassled any more so than any other foreigner.They also said that they too wouldn't be surprised if the mosque was occasionally under surveillance but didn't seem to bothered by the possibility.

 

Governmentally everything is pretty much centralised in Tokyo Command Central with little practical power to the locals. Government is deeply, deeply in love with pork barrel white elephant projects. Police (government) have much more power than conservatives say they like. No guns which we all know means tyranny and oppression. Recycling up the ying-yang. Lots more but you get the drift.. Personally, although a gun owner back in the States, I really like the no guns deal.

 

OK.

What aspects of Japanese society would be a "living hell" for conservatives?

I found Japan very pleasant too, when I visited. But obviously my understanding is very superficial. What are you referring to?

 

I listed a few in the post before. At least a few that appear to go counter to what conservatives say they want.

 

Thanks for the response, sorry I missed it the first time.

Those things don't bother me, but I am not a libertarian sort of conservative. I admire the cleanliness and the politness of the Japanese. I have come to appreciate the attention to detail they have. I applaud them for having formed a successful monocultural society with the right blend of traditional values and modern technology.

No, it is the multicultural West that is becoming a living nightmare.

 

... they actually dont think of perry fondly...

that said that was their inflection point. They could have chosen the path to becoming another third world colony by resisting an invader they couldnt resist. Instead they welcomed him took everything they could possibly learn from them and proceeded to be the first asian country to beat a european one in war (japan v russia)

 

This is true. The response of other countries subjected to this was to become a colony of the superpower. Japan succesfully avoided this fate which led to her sucess now.

In perry's defense. If he had not done it another person the equivalent of Perry would have done it from Britain, Spain, or any other imperial power at the time. Thinking this would not be the case is the height of stupidity.

 

Having lived in Japan and having studied Japanese history and culture, I can say with certainty that they are a polite, mostly tolerant, practical people who expect the same behaviors in others. Islam, as we have seen it throughout the world for most of its history is anything BUT polite, tolerant, or having behaviors that are practical, or even rational. Why? READ THEIR "HOLY BOOK", THE QURAN! They actually believe this stuff -- and they'll shoot you, blow you up, burn you to death, or cut your head off if you don't believe it, too.

Japanese are generally intelligent, studious, and they make very quick learners. In attempting to understand the mental illness that is Islam, they surely have absorbed the distilled analysis of it in synopses like this: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx .

We Americans can continue to wallow in our own stupor of 'la-dee-dah' political-correctness and 'anything-goes' "inclusiveness" -- but the Japanese have more regard for cold, hard facts and their own well-being and survival than to be herded along by manipulative politicians who preach this kind of guilt-trip propaganda....

. "As long as I get all my free crap from the government every month, I don't care...."

 

And yet thousands of Muslims marry, work and live in Japan with no problem. Imagine that.

Matter of fact, of all the foreigner committed crimes I am personally aware of only one was done by Muslim and that was done to other Muslims.

 

What you "personally are aware of" is moot. Crimes happen without the Nat Turner seal of acknowledgement.

 

"Japanese Muslims consist of less than 0.008% of the total population." Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Japan

Those Japanese Muslims who do live in peace, ignoring the teaching of their religion and defying what is written in their 'holy book', have surely come to a common-sense understanding of what it means to be 0.008% of a total population. Very smart... very practical. And as long as the Japanese people keep this mental illness in a dormant, docile state it will probably continue to do no harm in their country....

 

Japanese Muslims are small in number, yes. But the majority of Muslims in Japan are not Japanese. I hope you understand the distinction.
At least you are honest about your hatred for them although I fail to understand how someone could hate a billion people he has never met.

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Simply an anecdotal observation. Don't brown your boxers over it, son.

 

Yeah it is a very regimented society....all stemming from the "group" mentality over the individual....which has it's benefits but also its problems. At the societal level it is much safer, and while I was there I never felt the need to have a gun (and I couldn't have gotten one anyway).

I hear you on the recycling. Nothing is more daunting to a new gaijin than trash day.

One thing I don't agree with is that a right wing mindset is against the way the police operate there. The police only screw with you when they have a reason, and the way they do it lets you know you will follow the law or you're screwed. I've seen them knocking bozozoku off their bikes at speed with those big ass red and white sticks they carry for traffic stops. I've also seen what a couple of them can do to an unruly 6'5" Marine who's drunk off his ass. Not pretty. Combine that with what it's like in Japanese prison and how society in general looks at criminals....you have a powerful equation for people to not act like idiots.

Personally I'd like to see that happen in the states, but it never will. It's not the right wing that is against that, that's the left and their "its not fair criminals aren't to blame it's societies fault they're violent" baloney.

 

ours would never allow an entire religion to be put under surveillance.....

and as for the 2nd, I do not believe they all have the right to own guns... so your wrong again

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As far as I am aware of... it's them Christian/Jewish US military who do the most harm, with rape and murder. They are hardly allowed to leave their compounds.

 

I don't hate Muslims, per se. But, in the 21st-Century where we all have to learn to live together, I do hate any religion that commands its "true believers" to go out and mistreat, torture, and murder people who don't believe in it as the "only" true religion. Islam is the ONLY religion today that preaches this dogma, and, as such, I think it's a homicidal mental disease, whether it affects one person or a billion. Violent, dangerous Islam needs to be removed from human experience. There's simply no room for anything as starkly horrible as Islam is in civilization anymore....

 

Your key word is 'thousands' compared to 'millions' in the US meaning they do have tighter control but I've having a hard time finding exactly how many muslims live in Japan.