Jehova Witnesses - stupid logic (they lie)

the bible ways:
“This good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.”

the JWs say:
This (preaching throughout the world) is "PROOF" the end of the world is near.


It's not proof of anything.

JWs - lie.

 

I have always found them very kind people.

 

LOLOLOL

 

They got the tendency to ring your door-bell, and try to advertise their man-made drivel; no, thanks!

 

Repeatedly at 7 AM.. I finally called the police on them for trespassing.. and some apartment complexes have "no soliciting" to keep them out.

 

They knocked on the wrong door 2 years ago - mine. I had a blast for a couple hours, watching them make the weakest, worn out case for their religion. They came back a week later, with a guy I think was supposed to be some kind of expert. He crashed and burned. It was comical.

They haven't been back since. Too bad, I had a great time.

 

If they believe what they are saying is true then no lie has been told as a lie is knowingly presenting false information in the attempt to mislead another. Proof is evidence argued to establish or support a fact. In theology terms like proof, evidence, and fact are especially subjective as they are relative to the assessment of the individual and used as a basis to argue a theological intangible aka God.

 

I know it's rude, but I just do not open the door. I have no desire to discuss religion. Too personal a subject.

 

Dear vino909

Namaskar. If you don't mind me quoting you, what you said there about religion being too personal a subject is an interesting point. Religion must be the only aspect of our lives where we don't listen to those who have more experience in it than us. This must be due to the fact that there is so much mystery around it on the one side, and a fear of "losing ground" on the other. Additionally, in religion we have the idea that someone else has gone so far in it, but we can never get there ourselves. A unique phenomena in daily life.

The point: If we always stay with the idea that my religion is my business, very little progress will be made in it. The very fact that individuality disappears as spiritual progress continues should prove this.

Peace and Love for you and your family

 

I have no fear of "losing ground". The spoken word gives little justice to what is in the heart. I find religion something that cannot be shared as it is between a person and whatever faith or higher power they choose to be part of or speak to, only the two of them. I do not believe in churches, but respect those who need such communities. I do not need anyone else to practice what I believe except to treat people with respect and stay of of their private thoughts. I expect the same in return.

 

they used to be annoying, but I must admit it's been years sense I have seen one around here

 

Doesn't this depend on who is doing the preaching? Or is the teaching suppose to preached by false prophets for the purpose of gaining false profits, The word began to preached all over the world with the advent of radio and television. Thing is though the preachers are usually the kind of preachers that say people are poor because they are cursed; the kind of preacher that says for your life savings he can heal you from disease; the kind of preacher who has never opened his mind to the possibility that his/her version of the bible may be wrong, and therefore his/her message is wrong.

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preacher preach that they are the spokespeople of God, yet Jesus said, 'No one knows the father except the Son.'

 

Telling the stories of the bible is not the same as interpreting what the stories mean. NO ONE knows for sure what the authors of the bible meant when they wrote the enigmatic word.

 

What I find rude (and they aren't aware that they are being rude) is for a kid still wet behind the ears standing at my door with the intentions of converting me to his brand of religion. I have lived a thousand lives compared to them. I have read the bible several times. I am perfectly capable of putting my own spin on the religion of Jesus Christ.

 

They are nice, but the kids that come to my door are very young and very susceptible to being brain-washed. No one 20 years old should be at my door telling me about heaven and God; and telling me that if I don't worship like them, i'm going to hell. I'll take that chance.

 

They've never done any harm to me personally, but I've had friends who went through excommunication. Not a pretty sight. I can't respect any belief system that mandates a wedge be driven that deeply between friends and family.

 

When I was in high school, a Jewish friend of mine liked to invite them in and debate them.

Me, I feel a little sorry for them. Just say "no" and send them on their way.

But here's a cool true story.

Prince is a JW.

So one day a few years back, a couple answered a knock at their door to find ... Prince wanting to talk to them about religion.
http://www.ew.com/article/2003/10/15/prince-goes-door-door-jehovahs-witnesses


a woman named Rochelle, who told the Minneapolis-St.Paul Star Tribune that her husband answered a knock on the door to their Eden Prairie, Minn., home last Sunday to find the purple pop star proselytizing. He introduced himself by his full name, Prince Nelson, and came inside, accompanied by his bassist, former Sly and the Family Stone member Larry Graham, Rochelle told the paper.

”My first thought is ‘Cool, cool, cool. He wants to use my house for a set. I’m glad! Demolish the whole thing! Start over!’ Then they start in on this Jehovah’s Witnesses stuff,” Rochelle recalled. ”I said, ‘You know what? You’ve walked into a Jewish household, and this is not something I’m interested in.’ He says, Can I just finish? Then the other guy, Larry Graham, gets out his little Bible and starts reading scriptures about being Jewish and the land of Israel.”

Rochelle said Prince and Graham stayed for 25 minutes. ”Left us a pamphlet,” Rochelle said. ”He was very kind,” she said of Prince, who left with Graham in a ”big black truck with a woman, long dark hair in the front seat.” (Presumably, Prince’s wife, Manuela Testolini.)

 

Yeah, my wife's mom is married to a guy whose first wife was a JW. When they got divorced, all their friends dropped him because he was no longer a JW. Seems very un-Christian. Didn't Jesus say something about not shutting yourself away from the world?

 

they say it gets them used to heaven, cause any loved ones that are not Christian wont be there

 

Wow. How depressing.

 

They remind me of James Brown... they are the hardest working people in the Religion Business!

 

Dear raytri

Interestingly, Michael Jackson was also a Jehovah's Witness for a time. They started to split at the time of Jackson making the music video for Thriller. The Witnesses didn't consider the plot or setting suitable to a follower of their spiritual path.

Namaskar

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They are, like EVERY RELIGION, stupid.

 

The "logic" that gets me is that if you are super good and are chosen to be one of the 144,000, you get to go to Heaven where you will bask in the glory of God. If you are good, but not good enough for Heaven, you are reborn here on Earth where you will live for eternity in a perfect work with Jesus as the king. If you are bad (or not JW) you will not be resurrected and remain dead forever. So my chances that I will be one the 144,000 is kind of like winning the lottery, so I will probably be stuck down on Earth for eternity in a JW paradise (remember, they don't celebrate holidays or drink). Finally, if I am not JW I will end up dead forever, which is what atheists believe is going to happen anyway. So, my choices are, try and get a seat among the 144,000, in which I have to go around and convert people which actually reduces my chances of getting spot, I live on Earth for eternity in a world that will be Hell for me, or I end up where I think I'm going anyway. Not much of a choice.

 

Only 144,000 JWs will be in heaven because it makes sense that there's not too much room in heaven and a lot more room on earth, for the sheeple.

And it also makes sense that a smaller number of people will do all the thinking,
and everyone else will be a sheeple. That's how it always was. there were 12 apostles,
so 120 X 1200 (144,000) seems like a perfect number.

The JWs are always careful to print pamphlets showing all the different nationalities on earth. For their special easter pamphlet a few years ago, I noticed some Africans, Chinese, Western Europeans, Malaysian looking people, some from India, Hispanics, a Turk, a Russian or eastern European, a few from India and even one Eskimo for good measure. People from all over the earth can be JWs and live on paradise on earth. But the governing body were always nine older white guys.
Older white guys control that religion and the $billion dollars worth of real estate it own in New York state.


the governing Body of JWs. Notice, how they decided to allow one black guy - so people
like me can never complain that it's all older white guys.

some people need to rule. Others must be the sheeple.