Jesus Christ is no myth part II

Hinduism is as old as Zoroastrianism and older than Christianity unlike Christianity the persecution was based on actual going against factual God not statues not myth.

It was written after the death of Jesus after Jesus resurrection without his resurrection there will be no NT no Christianity.

In Mt. Olympus there were no gods or goddesses, Jesus lived and walk with the people he personally touch, ate and he suffer in front of them that is how real Jesus Christ is. Scientist agree that miracles are real they define it as unexplained events that are real until science can later learn how the miracles occurred.

We know that those apes the gorillas, the chimps the orangutan have no human intelligence they are not aware of God unlike humans we are aware that is why we have atheist and deniers that argue against God's existence.

Through Christ it has made us aware that voodooism, witchcraft, sorcery, quack, god man, geomancery, necromancery, wizardry are all false this include sky-fairy and zombies.

 

Those are tertiary sources at best. There are zero contemporary primary sources that confirm Jesus's existence.

 

Those are well accepted sources that are also used by deniers for them to push their agenda using those sources to twist and create a parallel story about Jesus.

 

You still have no provided a single contemporary primary source confirming Jesus.

The Bible claims that when Jesus was crucified, dead people all over Jerusalem got up out of their graves, walked around the city, and talked to people. You're going to tell me that we don't have a single primary source recounting that event if it really occurred?

 

There are tons of contemporary sources about Jesus Christ compare to zero credible historical sources to disproved the historicity of Jesus Christ. The amount of sources starts with the Bible then to Tacitus, Josephus, Jewish history, Encyclopedia, World History, etc. etc. and then we have modern science and philosophy that agrees the existence and reality of God.

After Jesus died on the cross a natural disaster occurred, Matthew 27
51 At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split

52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life.
53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and[a] went into the holy city and appeared to many people.
54 When the centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and all that had happened, they were terrified, and exclaimed, “Surely he was the Son of God!”

An earthquake damaged the Temple causing some of the tombs to open up and those tombs were tombs of holy individuals. "raise to life" a metaphor referring to those people who were buried in those tombs, the truth was buried for a long time until Jesus resurrection.

And then the gospel continues to go to after Jesus resurrection.
Who are those people that after Jesus resurrection roused up and went to the city? They were the Apostles, his brother James and later Paul as well.
In verse 54 it goes back to the earthquake again that is when the Roman guards begun to believe that Jesus is truly the Son of God.

 

How can being raised to life be a metaphor when the next line states that they went around the city appearing to people?

And no, there are no contemporary sources for Jesus. The closest sources were written decades after he died.

 

It's of no consequence that Jesus Christ lived 2000 years ago. Many people lived 2000 years ago. It IS of consequence that he was resurrected. Got evidence?

 

How can that be not a metaphor, of course it is a metaphor and it showed clearly that after Jesus resurrection was confirm by the Apostles they became totally change individuals just like what is describe in the gospel Matthew 27: 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people. When Jesus died and was buried the Apostles isolated themselves hiding in fear just like being buried in a tomb afraid and scare.

There are no contemporary sources that would deny the existence and reality of Jesus Christ. The closest sources the Bible, records by Tacitus and Josephus were written based on the facts with out those writings the Jewish hierarchy would have succeeded in erasing the life story and truth about Jesus Christ.

 

There isn't any proof that Jesus existed or thst he was anything special. You have to take a leap of faith. Don't worry about it, as long as your faith is resolute you're good .

 

Matthew 27:52-53 is about zombies popping out of their graves.

 

Dear WanRen,

Since you claim Jesus has existed, is responsible for the miracles attributed to him AND is the son of God, the burden of proof lies with you and you have yet to prove any of this. Since the Bible is being rejected as a reliable source, it is up to you to come up with a different source which is verifiable by others.

Further, you claim that there is no proof that Jesus didn't exist. What would the proof of Jesus' nonexistence look like? Also, lack of proof of non-existence, is in no way proof of existence. If that would be the case, the edge of the Universe is filled with all the things we could imagine and not prove.

 

Tacitus doesn't confirm Jesus. He only confirms Christians existed and describes what they believed.

Josephus's mention of Jesus is a likely forgery added by a later scribe given that it makes no sense in context with the preceding and following passages. Also, for it to be real, it would have required Josephus, an Imperial Jew vehemently opposed to Christianity, to call Jesus the messiah.

 

faith is nothing without factual results and because the reality of Jesus Christ is supported by reality not just by faith alone clearly confirm that God does exist.

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Zombies, leprechauns, mermaids etc. is what atheist and what modern ancient alien theorist believe are real.

 

Tacitus and Josephus wrote about Christians because those Christians were real and the reason for them to be Christian was based on the historical Jesus Christ the resurrection without the Resurrection there will be no Christianity and Tacitus and Josephus would only be writing about the Jewish rebellion against Rome.

 

Tacitus also wrote about the existence of Hindus and worshippers of Isis. Does that prove those gods were real?

 

No, Jesus isn't supported by reality. A god isn't. A god that loves us puny mortals certainly isn't. That's why it's religion, faith and belief. A concept of a god that can talk a univers into existence caring about us on an individual level goes completely against reality.

That is why there is a leap of faith required. You have to ignore reality in order to believe in a god like Jesus. I'm not saying is irrational, I'm not even saying it's wrong, I'm a Christian. I'm saying that is the necessity it's frankly the only one. You have to trust Jesus. Think about the miracles he performed, that defies logic and even sense. Walking on water isn't possible, all physics and science and human experience says that isn't possible. So by having faith you ate going against reality.

Why do you need these results for faith? Jesus only promised one result and you have to die to see it fulfilled. The pillar of Christ isn't built on earth. Because our understanding of reality has expanded to the universe I don't think it's working the universe.

We don't get proof. We must walk by faith, not sight.

 

Since none of this makes any since I'll not respond to it!

 

Hindu followers but its gods and goddesses are mythological just like the Roman, Greeks or Norse religion.

 

Faith becomes myth without reality. God appeared to Moses and Noah and God introduced Himself to them so they may believe. God send His only begotten Son Jesus and Jesus performed miracles so that we may believe. If it be by faith alone then there is no point for Jesus to perform miracles nor there is any point for God to respond to our prayers.

Have faith that rescue will come and rescue came that made faith a reality.

 

No faith is trust. Trust never becomes myth.

But just them, you have to trust that.

I didn't see any of that, on the surface it sounds preposterous. I have to trust in that.

It's only by faith that you believe he performed miracles.

No action made reality. Faith kept you from succumbing to despair.

 

Apply that same logic to Christianity.

Tacitus's writings only verify that there were Christians. The existence of Christians does not prove that Christ was real any more than worshippers of Isis prove that Isis was real.

 

My God can do anything yours can do better!

 

It never become myth because it is backed up with actual facts.

God also would send His angels to appear to certain people such as to Mary.

God did sent His begotten Son Jesus and it was Jesus actions that would change the course of history, it is no longer about trusting that it happened it is real as written and recorded in the Bible and by Tacitus and Josephus.

People followed Jesus because he actually perform miracles they saw it they witness it and it was his miracles that attracted the Jewish leadership.

Faith keeps us going until we find the truth just like scientist have faith in their theories that allowed them to make their theories a reality. Our faith becomes a reality with Jesus Christ.

 

That logic is applied to historians writing about historical facts based on actual historical events and this goes back to Eisenhower's great quote;
“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.” And this is what the Bible writers and none Bible writers such as Tacitus and Josephus did.

 

Come on. If it was there wouldn't be atheists or other religions.

Well, that is still not you and you still have to take their word for it.

Again if that was fact there wouldn't be atheists.

Lol people actually follow david koresh. In 2000 years who knows what the dividians will believe.

No, we have faith that what we believe is true.