Joe Biden Has Promised to End Trump's Muslim and African 'Travel Ban'....

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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    Why isn't Saudi Arabia on Trumps travel ban list?
     
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    Because they are not considered terrorist countries. That only amplifies that it is not a racist decision.
     
  3. Badaboom

    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL!!!

    Pray tell, can you list the name and country of origin of those responsible for 9/11? k thanks!
     
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    Islam is not a country.
     
  5. ECA

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    Amazing he didn't already know this.
     
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    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Strawman
     
  7. ECA

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    Where did he say it was?
     
  8. Hoosier8

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    Lack of common sense.
     
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    On your part, yes I concur!
     
  10. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nineteen years and three presidents later, they are not on the terrorist list. The only reason for banning them would be racism.
     
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    So that means that you pray for the dead of a travel ban for which there is ZERO evidence that it will cause any death, but not for mishandling of a crisis that is proven has caused thousands of dead.

    Hold it right there. That is false. Get your facts straight. There is not now, nor has there ever been a "travel ban" from China. But that's a different topic.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden has also promised to cure cancer and eliminate systemic racism so...
     
  13. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Two unrelated subjects.
    Ban, reduction or restriction, it worked. Or do you now want to claim that it had no effect?
     
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    :pretzel:
     
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    In 19 years, which countries on Trump's list, have terrorists been from who have committed terrorist attacks on US soil? I have no problem with a travel ban but it should be consistent. If the criteria of NOT being on the list is that people from the country haven't attacked us in 19 years (which is what one person in this thread seemed to indicate), then please tell me which countries terrorists who have attacked us in the last 19 year have been from.
    Let's be honest...Saudi Arabia is not on the list for political reasons.
     
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    Badaboom. That's the best you can do?
     
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    Also, because their government does not advocate terrorism. They are one of the few friends we have in the middle east.

    Call it logic. Call it politics. Putting them on the list makes no sense. There are more positives than negatives by not putting them on the list.
     
  18. ECA

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    So political. Thanks, already knew that
     
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    It's better than your pretzel logic.
    Being on a list or not as no relation to being a country who sponsor terrorism or not. That list is the result of a political decision, not a real danger level. Many on that list have never attacked any US citizens or assets and other not on the list did, like Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Gulf State.

    The reason why they're not on the list is that it would be the end of your military bases in the region with which you impose your will and control the flow of goods and petrol, mostly to the european market.
     
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    Then I wonder why none of the three presidents did it.
    Personally, I would not object to removing all our bases from foreign soil. However, I have seen no evidence that we are controlling the flow of goods and petrol with our military.
     
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    Political decision as I and ECA said.

    You don't think having the 5th fleet parked there doesn't mess with anybody's plan to take control of the flow of oil in the region? Ask Iraq...
     
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    It is not as simple as calling it political.

    Again. You have to weigh the positives versus the negatives. Do you believe we should ban Saudi Arabia because they cause more harm than good to the US?
     
  23. kriman

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    Who have they blocked that should not have been blocked?
     
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    He doesn't seem to get it
     
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    Do you believe we should put Saudi Arabia on the list? A simple yes or no would be adequate rather than hiding behind other people's post.
     

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