Jon Stewart demolish a 2A fanatic

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  1. Turtledude

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    gun banners constantly confuse use vs possession laws concerning other actions or rights. or they are dishonest about them
     
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    The latter, for sure.
     
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    Before the first instance of any infraction, there is no precedent. If precedent was the final determinant, Trump would not be investigated, nor indicted.
     
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    The FAWB was precedent.
     
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    It was unconstitutional.
     
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    It didn't even meet a smell test. and under Heller it is clearly unconstitutional. In fact, under MILLER it was unconstitutional
     
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    Show me the court ruling on that from 1994-1995.
     
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    New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen makes it unconstitutional.
     
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    That was 2021, not 1994-1995.

    Bad ruling. It will be overturned. And it's based on the old BS line saying "Gun restrictions are constitutional only if there is a tradition of such regulation in U.S. history." So IOW NO LAW that relates in any way to the Constitution is "constitutional" the first time it comes up. There's a first time for everything and the ruling by a right wing "court" doesn't mean much to me. It will be overturned.

    Law restricts ownership of fully automatic weapons. Is that unconstitutional?
    Law restricts ownership of "armor-piercing" ammunition. Is that unconstitutional?

    And there is a long list of other items that are already banned.
    https://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/banned-guns/

    You lose.
     
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    The assault weapons ban was unconstitutional, per the Bruen decision.
     
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    that is was going to sunset was one reason why there was not much litigation
    that it didnt' ban the sale of the guns was another-most of us continued to buy the firearms with the slight cosmetic modifications. many people then changed the weapons back to pre ban since it was highly unlikely there were going to be ramifications and others-like me since I was a federal prosecutor at the time-changed the rifles after the ban expired. The one case in my area that was brought-the judge dismissed the charges though it was a state version of the same law
     
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    Yes, if we are talking about hand held individual automatic weapons. In fact Miller alone should establish that
    Yes, because armor piercing is vague and can be read to ban most ammo fired out of rifles
     

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