Judge to hear arguments in Zimmerman's defamation suit against NBC

Turdgood Marshall couldn't carry Clarence Thomas' brief case. Turdgood was an affirmative action appointment........Clarence Thomas worked his way up from nothing.......with the pissed off 'progressives' fighting him all the way simply because he was black and conservative.

 

What does this mean? You stated he was innocent. I am not sure what he is innocent of doing. Being found not guilty does not mean someone is innocent. It means the case could not be proved beyond reasonable doubt. I am not sure what your accusation about me has to do with the thread topic or your earlier statements.

 

LOL, you don't like Thurgood Marshall because he wouldn't bend, buckle, take a back seat or bow down. Clarence Thomas is not half the Justice that Thurgood Marshall was.

 

Everyone, including GZ, is 'innocent' until proven guilty > GZ is innocent.........y'all just need to get over this.......you bought into a racist lie early on and typed 3000 posts until the evidence came out exonerating an innocent man.........now you just need to accept that......and the fact that you and many others 'jumped the gun' on this case........and were led around by your nose by the MSM who failed to show you the 'John the Neighbor' interview which was pretty conclusive.

 

In this country, you are innocent till proven guilty. A not guilty verdict upholds ones innocence, no matter what the court of public opinion thinks.

 

That standards doesn't apply to all, as we have seen in many cases.

A not guilty verdict doesn't mean you are innocent of the crime, just ask Roy Bryant and JW Milam.

 

Good (*)(*)(*)(*)ing lord. Is there anything in that pile I am not accused of?

Zimmerman was found not guilty, He was not found innocent. He is legally as innocent as OJ. Being found not guilty does not mean you did not do it or participate in it. It means that the evidence was not presented to remove reasonable doubt.

As for your innocent until proven guilty, I point to your several hundred threads attacking blacks for an alleged knock out game and your rampant condemnation of them along strictly racial lines. I never heard anything in those thread telling folks they were innocent until proven guilty. Your claim reeks like day old fish sitting in the sun. Your comment lacks any credibility.

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Really? Where is that written?

 

Are you under the impression that a not guilty verdict reverses your innocent till proven guilty standing ?

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In the eyes of the law 100 percent it does . In the court of public opinion who cares ?

 

And most of those threads have the attack on video.. How is an attack on video alleged?

 

That does not even make sense.

A legal presumption of innocence does not mean that someone is innocent. it means that until they are convicted then they will be treated as innocent.

 

That is your opinion. In legal terms , when someone is found not guilty they remain innocent as they have been the entire time .

 

Exactly.....you got it.

 

Yes, and has been my contention here, that doe snot mean he is innocent,. nor was he found to be innocent.

 

One does not need to be "found" innocent since that is not what a courtroom in our country is responsible for . Opinions are allowed and will always exist .

 

Being found "not Guilty" does not always equal innocents, any more than being found guilty necesarily mean that a person is guilty.

 

Yeah, I believe I noted that one being found not guilty does not mean they are innocent.

 

What you didn't note was , " in my opinion " .

 

You appear to be making a distinction between "factually innocent" and "legally innocent." When you start saying that people are merely "legally innocent" you are verbally undermining the justice system.

 

Well, i think my contention predated this highly intellectual exchange.

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Yeah, I do that.

 

I don't think that's appropriate here, Zimmerman was not charged originally because it was an open and shut case and even after massive political pressure (which only came about because the press lied about the situation in multiple ways) it was still an open and shut case. Stand your ground laws were not raised either. It's sad that people would seek to undermine the justice system over Zimmerman but not care that the attorney general appointed an Obama donor to investigate the IRS.

 

There are far too many cases I can pull up to show that is false.

 

You can pull up cases that people have been found not guilty but still go to jail for the crime ? Don't quite know what you are trying to state .

 

I am speaking of all the cases where black men have been found guilty when they were in fact innocent and have spent countless years in prison for a crime they didn't commit.

 

It gets much more complected in cases of self defense. The defendant admitted that he killed the decedent. The death at the defendants hand is a given fact. Often when a jury finds not guilty it is for lack of evidence that the defendant killed the decedent and lack of evidence is evidence of absence. However in a case of self defense we have the jury finding that the defendant acted in self defense based on the evidence so we have a finding of fact rather than lack of fact.

 

Really? It is sad that George haters need to use this logic to console themselves. "Well he was found not guilty but that doesn't mean he is innocent".....sad just sad. Here is how it works: a person is INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY. George was not proven guilty hence he remains innocent. See how that works. I put certain key words in caps hoping this concept will sink in.