Juicy details of US military power

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  1. Fallen

    Fallen Well-Known Member

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    It a curate at it shows mojority of the northern hemisphere.
     
  2. Fallen

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    You completely missed it huh? Google satellites, which are restricted by the government can see targets pretty clearly. I'm guessing that they have a telescopic lenses.

    But let's talk about quality. The same quality that the government is keeping cooperations from achieving.

    Better the quality, the farther you can move your satellite out.

    Do you think that our government doesn't have the lenses to account for the distance between a low and high orbit satellites?
     
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    For the last time it's not about image quality and zoom that is the problem. We have reached the technology to zoom in very close with high quality with advanced lenses. We have not reached the level of technology, to scan for targets to cover an entire area for targets with optical technology from such a far distance. A high altitude sattelite would be even worse, because you need a faster scanner to cover more area for a bigger zoom.
     
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    Not accurate curvatures. A missile from Iran to the United States would go through Europe not Syria. Just get a globe.
     
  5. Fallen

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    Wrong. You can hit near Virginia or georgia. Depending on what angle that they take. But you know it as well as I that Iran has no such missile. They can't reach Europe. Which by the way this system was designed to protect. You're talking about them reaching united states now?


    Are you for real? I'm sensing some trolling.

    I had enough time entertaining this.


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    Your argument is invalid because we know for a Fact that Iran doesn't even have missile that can reach Europe. The fact that you are talking about Iran reaching US is nonsense.
     
  6. Mrbsct

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    Why they (*)(*)(*)(*) would fire through Syria to reach Virginia and Georgia? You give your missile less range and accuracy. The fastest trajectory to Georgia is through Europe. Either way AEGIS ships are in the sea in case that happens and does go through the Mediterranean.

    Again, Iran is developing ICBMs, this is a program to stay ahead.
     
  7. Fallen

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    Fact.

    Iran doesn't even have a missile that can reach 1 dingle place in Europe. The fact that you are talking about them reaching US is nonsense.

    It's even more nonsense that you are talking about the particulars of impossibly.
     
  8. Mrbsct

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    Yes they do.
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    So it's impossible for Iran to make an ICBM?
     
  9. Fallen

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    More harm than good
    The expert group concludes that in terms of protecting Europe from a possible Iranian attack, the proposed ABM system has little to offer. The threat it is meant to counter is far from being imminent and, if it were, the system is far from being effective at preventing it. “It does not make sense, therefore, to proceed with deployment of the European missile defense system in Poland and the Czech Republic,” they say.

    Moreover, the antimissiles are a major irritant in the relations between Washington and Moscow and have contributed in building mistrust between the two countries to the worst level since the Cold War.

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    After 18 months of negotiating, Iran has come to a preliminary agreement with China, Russia, France, UK, US and Germany (P5+1) on Tehran’s nuclear program. But what is Iran giving up to seal the deal and how can it benefit in the long run?

    Uranium enrichment – Iran has agreed to only enrich uranium to 3.67%
    What is it? The process of turning uranium found in the ground into nuclear fuel that can be used to create nuclear energy, or potentially a nuclear bomb.

    Why is it important? To build a nuclear bomb, uranium needs to be enriched to about 90 percent. The 3.67 percent agreed by Tehran means it would be practically impossible for Iran to build a nuclear weapon, but would allow it to use nuclear material for peaceful purposes.

    The outcome: Iran gets to keep its nuclear program, albeit a limited one, while the likes of the US now know it will be much harder for Tehran to build a bomb.

    Centrifuges – Iran cuts centrifuges from 19,000 to 6,104, with 5,060 for enrichment

    What are they? Centrifuges are vital to extract nuclear fuel from uranium in its mineral form. They work by spinning around at high speeds, which separate the different particles, eventually just leaving enriched uranium

    Why are they important? The 6,000 or so centrifuges Iran has been allowed to keep are first generation and not the technically-advanced modern versions. This is like comparing a regular family car with a Formula 1 car, with Iran getting the former. If Tehran wanted to build a bomb now, it would take a very long time.

    The outcome: Israel and US Republicans wanted Iran to give up all its centrifuges, while Barack Obama was originally prepared to let it keep 6,500.

    Uranium stockpiles – Iran to cut the amount it keeps from 10,000kg to just 300kg

    What are they?Uranium is the key ingredient necessary in order to operate a nuclear program. Once it has been enriched, it can be used to generate power or create a nuclear weapon.

    Why are they important? By giving up 97 percent of its uranium stockpiles, Tehran has effectively given up any possibility to create a nuclear bomb.

    The outcome: By reducing its stockpiles, Iran has increased transparency with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), while also making a commitment to use its nuclear program for peaceful purposes.

    Inspections – IAEA will have access to all Iran’s nuclear facilities

    What is it? The IAEA is an organization that promotes the peaceful use of nuclear power and is against the building of nuclear weapons that are used for military purposes.

    Why is it important? This will allow the international community to see if Iran is keeping its end of the bargain. The IAEA will be able to monitor everything concerning Tehran’s nuclear program – from the reactors to the materials, such as uranium and centrifuges.

    The outcome: With such transparency in place, it would be almost impossible for Iran to develop a nuclear weapon without getting caught.

    Sanctions – Iran will see crippling sanctions lifted, if it keeps its end of bargain

    What are they? The latest sanctions were introduced against Iran in 2006 after Tehran refused to halt its uranium enrichment program.

    Why are they important? Sanctions introduced against Iran have had a devastating effect on its economy. Areas such as oil and gas have been affected, while Tehran’s finance sector was also hit. This made it difficult for to trade on the world market, while areas such as Iran’s aviation industry suffered, as they were unable to get spare parts from the US and the West.

    The outcome: The sanctions will only be fully lifted once Iran has proven it has stopped its nuclear enrichment program. Once they are lifted, it will be a massive boost to Tehran’s economy as it will increase trade and see new investment into the country.

    Fallout from Iran nuclear deal
    If Iran keeps its end of the deal, the West will know Iran’s nuclear program is peaceful. For Tehran, it will be able to produce nuclear energy, while also be showing to the Iranian public that it has not caved in to the demands of the US and its allies.

    The nuclear deal reached between Iran and the P5+1 group (China, France, Russia, UK and US) and Germany is a victory in diplomacy. However, it has the potential to destabilize the region, with Saudi Arabia and Israel both wary of any thawing of relations between Iran and the West. Riyadh has already stated it wants its own nuclear program, while Israel’s relations with Washington have hit their lowest point for years.

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    Going from one impossibility to the next, and the impossibly of an Iranian nuclear missile still remains.
     
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    More RT propaganda. Ballistic Missile=/=Nuclear weapon. Iran can make irrational and accidental launches.

    If the ABM can't stop Russian missile attack, why are Russians so concerned? It can't stop Russian missiles attack, I just said. It has nothing to do with Russia. You say Iran can't make ICBMs in immeiteley, but SM-3 Block IIA won't be here till 2018(to stop ICBMs). So we are right on schedule. And if you think it's a waste of money...so...it's not Russian money we are using.
     
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    Like I said. A nuclear missile is impossible for Iran.
     
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    I think we will destroy Russia in any future war.
     
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    Why don't you post citations when you copy/paste the Russian Ministry of Mass Media and Communications? Notice this article the Putinista posted didn't even attempt to address the issue of Iranian missile capabilities or ICBM development?
     
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    They're surface to air missiles not surface to surface missiles so WTF are you talking about?
     
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    Source please? Because the fragmentation a would not stay in their current orbits they would ricochet off one another and change trajectories this is why the movie gravity is bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    There was no coup, that the protesters were payed is a long proven lie, they protested because the majority of Ukrainians according to all available polling data wanted to join the EU and Yanukovych was forced to pull out of the deal because Russia waged economic war upon them and then at the behest of the war criminal Putin Yanukovych sent in his jack booted thugs to murder peaceful protesters in the streets prompting his ouster by his own party.

    No the British have not been threatening cargo planes but the Russians have been threatening US Naval ships and aircraft in international waters and international airwaves. You are quite welcome for the information I know your disinformation task masters at the Russian Ministry of Mass Communications and Media don't give you the facts.
     
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    They are all going to be guided under contract from Lockheed for the new 60km guided munitions the M30 and M31 are not missiles they are GPS/INS guided rockets, the M39 MGM-140 Army Tactical Missile System is a completely different variant from the M30 and M31 guided rocket artillery variants.
     
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    I reckon you're right Ron. All you need to do is remember to take the pills mate, otherwise you might become unstable. :thumbsup:
     
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    ICBM=/=nuclear
     
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    I'm pretty sure that Russia only has one carrier, it's not a super carrier, and I doubt you were on it. Fuel depots on the ship are protected by solid steel and Kevlar and at compartmentalized in addition the ships have thousands of water tight compartments and aside from their strike forces Aegis Combat Systems they themselves have numerous defensive countermeasures:

    In addition to the aircraft carried on board, the ships carry defensive equipment for use against missiles and hostile aircraft. These consist of either three or four NATO RIM-7 Sea Sparrow missile launchers designed for defense against aircraft and anti-ship missiles as well as either three or four 20 mm Phalanx CIWS missile defense cannon. USS Ronald Reagan has none of these, having been built with the RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile system, two of which have also been installed on USS Nimitz and USS George Washington. These will be installed on the other ships as they return for Refueling Complex Overhaul (RCOH).[3][15] Since USS Theodore Roosevelt, the carriers have been constructed with 2.5 in (64 mm) Kevlar armor over vital spaces, and earlier ships have been retrofitted with it: Nimitz in 1983–1984, Eisenhower from 1985–1987 and Vinson in 1989.[2][22]

    The other countermeasures the ships use are four Sippican SRBOC (super rapid bloom off-board chaff) six-barrel MK36 decoy launchers, which deploy infrared Flare (countermeasure) and chaff to disrupt the sensors of incoming missiles; an SSTDS torpedo defense system; and an AN/SLQ-25 Nixie torpedo countermeasures system. The carriers also use AN/SLQ-32(V) Radar jamming and deception systems to detect and disrupt hostile radar signals in addition to the electronic warfare capabilities of some of the aircraft on board.[23][24]


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimitz-class_aircraft_carrier
    And let's not forget that our AWACS would instantly target the firing batteries of any missiles launched and tomahawks and or attack aircraft would be sent into destroy them.
     
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    If carriers are so useless, why are Russian using one? Remember the US doesn't put all eggs in one basket by spending on so many carriers, it has that many because it's military spending is large in general. It spends a lot on Destroyers and Cruisers as well along with anti-ship missiles.
     
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    The entire point behind the MLRS is to shwack a grid square. It's basically a huge cluster bomb. That is antithetical to using guided munitions.
     
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    I was on USA Theodore Roosevelt. Not everyone in America is a brainwashed idiot.

    And you have no idea what you are talking about. Saying that carriers have water tight compartment in the face of a carrier Killer is like saying tanks have reactive armor in the face of a Kornet.


    It's irrelevant.
     
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    You obviously can't read. The only use that carriers have is to extend the range of a fighter jet that's operating on its decks. Without a carrier, an f18 has to be launched from ground bases.


    That is as far as carrier's usefulness goes. But as explained. 1 strike from a carrier killer missile will destroy it.

    So us navy has to send a battle group to protect a carrier. Their job is to shield the carrier even if it means sacrificing themselves.

    But as explained, for the price of 1 carrier, Russian can fire enough missiles to wipe out the ENTIRE us navy fleet 10 times over.
     
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    You obviously haven't been reading. The "shield" can be equipped with a tomahawk.
     

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