Just checking for consistency here....

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  1. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    How many police officers were killed on January the 6th? Here's your chance.....

    Do you think no police officers were killed during the summer of love how about the Dallas BLM sniper how many cops did he kill?

    As riots were raging across the Nation you had top Democrats egging them on.

    Do you think it's okay for a congress person to tell and assembled mob to go out and find any elected officials you find in public and harass them?
     
  2. Bowerbird

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    Then if they were in the wrong so was Trump
     
  3. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    So how come the same people that want to investigate Trump nine ways to Sunday don't have nothing to say when it's in their own backyard?

    No one cares to listen to a hypocrite about the only thing worse than a hypocrite is a liar and the two of them are often the same
     
  4. ECA

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    Which had nothing to do Waters’ comments. Stop conflating.
     
  5. ECA

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    Nope. Stop spreading lies.
     
  6. Hey Now

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    Well, that about coins it! :)
     
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    Yes, when they have the majority.
     
  8. ECA

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    Repubs can still call for hearings yet they haven’t.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    This is straight out of his mouth... spin it the best you can my liberal friend.."you will pay the price" must be just a typical everyday liberal threat...
     
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    Oh but they have. They have been denied.
     
  11. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    But that's okay because don't you know he "apologized"..... Never mind the hate filled nut bags that he was appealing to did not get the memo
     
  12. ECA

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    That isn’t proof that he incited the person to want to attempt to kill a judge. And do you really think Schumer was advocating for a justice to be killed? You can’t actually believe that.
     
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    Provide proof of your claim
     
  14. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    The very worst thing that you can say that Trump said was that you have to fight like hell or you're not going to have a country again.

    So if your logic is consistent you would say that that is no proof that he incited of any sort of insurrection.
     
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    I don't think Trump did. Oops...didn't see that coming did ya. When will you learn that you don't have me pegged. Your biased assumptions about me always fall flat
     
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    Complaining in public places to government officials (even in their faces) about their actions is a right protected by the 1st Amendment. Overthrowing a democratically elected government is not.

    So, just as I thought, you made up a false equivalence between a democratic RIGHT and an anti-democratic criminal act. You can now stop drawing me to dumb threads where you just make up nonsense. I am not interested in reading how you blindly repeat talking points you heard from the Tucker Carlson/Hannity/Alex Jones echo-chamber.
     
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    Sorry, I don't do requests.
     
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    In other words no Repub has called for hearings. Thank you!
     
  19. Patricio Da Silva

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    Let's not get bogged down in hypotheticals, let's stick to current events.

    Hutchinson's witness testimony, she was in the tent at the ellipse on the this point "take down the mags' he said. I don't think she would make that up, especially the vernacular, very secret service talk that Trump would be in on.

    Anyway, on the broader points

    Trump has told 75 million people a big lie and democrats stole the election. That's not okay.

    Trump was worried that the secret service, using metal detectors, where not letting the ellipse rally arena to be filled out because many were armed, that he wanted the 'mags' taken down, those are the detectors. Hutchinson was a witness to this.

    He wanted to go to the capitol and lead his flock, many of whom would have been armed, which would make them insurgents, not trespassers had the secret service complied with Trump's requests ( to remove the mags and to let him go to the capitol. No doubt they were following Cipollone's orders on these points, given that they were highly illegal and keeping the WH legal is his job ). We also know this from testimony given to Giuliani and an interview with Trump reported in the Post last April ( I dont have the links, I'll have to hunt for it) not to mention he clearly stated that desire to the audience at the ellipse.

    he didn't care that they were chanting "hand mike pence'', and Meadows didn't think he could do anything about it. This was Witnessed by Hutchinson.

    What Trump did, much of it illegal, in my lay opinion, is not okay.

    Are you okay with it? You haven't expressed your point of view on this, except to defend Trump on every little point.
     
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  20. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Substantiating a claim is normally de rigueur and courtesy in debates.

    No one should have to even request that you back up a claim, the onus is on you, not anyone else.
     
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    I don't care whether people believe me or not. That is the difference. Sorry, I don't do personal requests.
     
  22. Patricio Da Silva

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    No one cares about your vacuous opinions.

    Many of us are here to debate, and debates require, under the concept of courtesy, to back up one's claims.

    Therefore, to assert you don't do requests when substantiation are expected as courtesy is a cop out and an insult

    But, of course, that reality eludes you.
     
  23. fmw

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    Nothing eludes me. I simply don't agree with you.
     
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    Yawn. On the other hand the congressional Repubs are just that moonbat absurd so......... I'm betting MTG gets some sweet committee assignments so she can work on spreading the Crazy.
     
  25. Patricio Da Silva

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    You only agree that being discourteous is acceptable to you.
     

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