Kennedys endorse Biden in rebuke of RFK Jr. bid

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    Kennedys endorse Biden in rebuke of RFK Jr. bid
    More than a dozen members of the Kennedy family endorsed President Biden for reelection on Thursday, rebuking the candidacy of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., whose independent bid critics argue will help elect former President Trump.
    Kerry Kennedy, the younger sister of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., addressed a group of Biden supporters in Philadelphia, joined on stage by the president and other members of her family.
    “In 2024, there are only two candidates with any chance of winning the presidency,” she said, referencing Biden and Trump and implicitly dismissing her brother’s White House chances.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4603017-kennedy-family-endorses-biden-rfk-jr-rebuke/
    Poor RFK Jr.
    Even his own family is throwing him under the bus.
    His family is just acknowledging what everybody already knows.
    RFK Jr's candidacy is just a cynical exercise to siphon votes from Biden.
    Glad to see his family step up...
     
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    Hopefully he'll peel off 3%-4% from fossil Biden.
     
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    we know Trump can't win own his own, it would be his only chance

    Trump should fund RFK's campaign
     
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    He'll peel off anti-vax morons from Trump.
     
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    A trump pac is funding him.

    They know they cannot win legitimately so they have to resort to tactics like this
     
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    Why, can you party not win without a spoiler candidate?

    Looks like you would be pushing to win based on merit and not manipulation.
     
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    I have found no appeal in RFK jr so far. There is nothing in him that suggests the usual astute policy mind or the intellect or the political acumen those Kennedys are known for. He's gravel voiced nut job with Boston accent. Its kind of pathetic.
     
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    Apparently, RFK Jr. has just qualified for ballot access in Michigan. According to RFK Jr. campaign he has already officially qualified to appear on the presidential ballot in Utah and has collected enough signatures to appear on the ballots in North Carolina, New Hampshire, Nevada, Idaho, Hawaii, Iowa and Nebraska.

    https://www.axios.com/2024/04/18/rfk-jr-michigan-ballot-2024

    Why are the two major parties so afraid of RFK Jr.? Perhaps they know according to Pew Research that 26% of all Americans have a negative, unfavorable views of both Trump and Biden.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...ve-unfavorable-views-of-both-biden-and-trump/

    Or that 29% of all Americans think neither major party candidate, Trump and Biden both won’t make a good president according to Gallup.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/642911...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

    Or that 59% of all Americans don’t want Biden to run again, 56% don’t want Trump to run again either.

    https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_HqmM53D.pdf

    Or that 64% of all Americans want another choice other than Trump and Biden.

    https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/HHP_Mar2024_KeyResults.pdf

    Or it could be RFK Jr. fills a niche for a quarter to a third of all Americans who don’t want Biden reelected nor want Trump to regain the white house. Is it possible that at this late stage both major parties are finally realizing their choice of candidate are disliked and unwanted to become the next president by most Americans? I’d say all of the above.
     
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    Oh geez! It shows that despite the huge size of this country, you still could not find a third party or independent challenge any better or any more credible than the two unpopular nominees of the two party system!. I would think of all years, this election cycle you could do better than an anti-vax conspiracist who has never held public office before.

    I live in Oregon. I have the luxury of being able to vote for whomever I please, knowing that my state will stay blue as a blueberry and Trump cannot benefit. All I needed is someone to vote for! Frankly, Biden is still the better of these candidates.
     
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    Getting nervous? :lol:

    R.F.K. Jr. Raises New Uncertainty for Biden in Michigan
    Mr. Kennedy’s success in landing on the battleground state’s ballot guarantees that he will shape the race this November. Both parties are racing to define him.


    "The prospect of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. threatening to upend the presidential race went from an idea to a reality in one of the country’s most consequential battlegrounds on Thursday, when Mr. Kennedy qualified for the ballot in Michigan."


    R.F.K. Jr. Raises New Uncertainty for Biden in Michigan - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
     
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    Nope. I win either way

    While I think Biden is better for the country I know trump is better for my wallet.

    I am hoping for another PPP “loan” (or similar) if trump is re-elected.

    That said, that a candidate that is deeply unpopular can get a bump in the polls because they are funding another candidate with the specific intent of damaging another candidate — and not on policy — says a tremendous amount about the US election system.
     
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    You hoping for a new round of Covid?
     
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    COVID is still around — I had a contractor out for two weeks due to it.

    But if it puts another 300 grand in my pocket, likely more now as we have grown substantially in the last 3 years, and the people vote for trump? I will gladly take their money :)
     
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    Good Democrats deserve Biden. If he gets reelected how long do you think it'll be before he's removed from office?
     
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    Yeah covet is still around but you can't frighten people into thinking everyone's going to die again and cause planet so the tool is passed its sharpness.
     
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    I am sure trump will find a new way to divert more money from the middle class to business owners.

    He is creative in that regards
     
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    All is not even. Independents and third parties must jump through a million and one hoops just to gain ballot access. Republicans and Democrats have automatic ballot access. Republicans and Democrats write out election laws and do so as a mutual protection act. If there’s one thing both major parties agree on, it’s that no viable third party will ever rise. Then there’s the money aspect. 14 billion dollars were spent on the 2020 election by the two major parties.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2020/10/cost-of-2020-election-14billion-update/

    41.53% of that 14 billion came from the super-rich, mega money donors. Roughly 6 billion dollars. In 2020 one guy gave the GOP 218 million, another gave the democrats 152 million, another gave the democrats 72 million and on down the line. None of the super-rich, mega money elites are going to give to any third party or independent candidate.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors?cycle=2020&view=fc

    One could say these super-rich, mega money donors own the hearts and souls of the two major parties. Then there’s corporations, wall street firms, organizations, special interest groups, lobbyists etc. giving additional tens of millions of dollars to the two major parties. 2020 listed below.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/top-organizations?cycle=2020

    Seems elections are all about money. Moneyed resources no independent or third-party candidate has, only the two major party. One can look at all of this and deduce we have the best government money can buy.
     
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    Why didn't you think middle class owns businesses? Are you stuck in 1974
     
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    Most Americans do indeed not own businesses and while somewhere around 60% of all new business are started by people in the middle class it plummets with established businesses.

    It’s around 7% in 2023

    And even fewer of those have CPA’s that can find and utilize the massive amounts of subsidies that dear leader doled out. (Thanks for your contribution btw)

    What’s so funny regarding your comment is that more businesses were owned by the middle class in 1974 than they do now!

    [​IMG]
     
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    sort of like corrupt DAs filing dubious charges against Trump and a Biden supporting judge demanding Trump be tied up in Court while senile Joe is out campaigning?
     
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    No, all is not 'even' or even close. I am right with you on changing all that, but because independent and third party candidates are not expected to literally compete for electoral votes and hold the actual office, its actually very freeing in the search for competent reasonable candidates. They don't have to be charasmatic, they don't have to play the game by the same party rules. All they need to be is basically retired from active party politics ( a former governor, Congressman etc), have some name familiarity already, no crazy or extreme views, and willing to run a campaign that intends to challenge the two party dominance. Do it enough times, and you may gradually find some gold nuggets that glitter enough for real interest. .

    The lesser of three evils is no better than the lesser of two evils. RFK jr. does not make your point very well about this upswell of enthusiasm for more options, when nobody can come up even one - including the the 'No labels' club.
     
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    Dubious in your opinion
    Fact beats opinion and it’s fact who is funding RFK

    A political party that had even a semblance of integrity would reject such tactics but seeing what y’all did in FL, NC and gerrymandering in numerous states — I think we can all agree that ship has sailed.
     
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    There should be incentive for people who produce wealth over people who just exchange it right
    I suppose more are owned by the low class I've owned businesses and was never rolling in the dough. I figured that's pretty standard
     
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    Such a political party wouldn't endorse Biden as it's elderly abuse. Ride him to the grave I Guess.
     
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    Oh I agree Biden shouldn’t be the Democratic nominee. But saying that while supporting a man that is 3 years younger is hilarious.
     
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