Key House Democrat requests Trump's tax returns from IRS

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    Those aren't assumptions. They are government assessments of "best practices" of collecting revenue. They only send rookies in to audit average Joe Blow.......for training purposes mostly. No return on investment, other than public based fear.
     
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    The IRS did not charge him. Robert Mueller and other federal agencies did charge him for the crime of defrauding the US in tax earnings.

    He has already been deemed guilty of that crime. To pretend that Trump could not be guilty of a tax crime simply because the IRS did not charge him for the crime thus far is to ignore the lesson from an extremely recent historical precedent.

    And seriously, shove off with the laughing emojis with every. Single. ****ing. Post.

    Be better.
     
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    Your analysis (and Nostradomis predictions) are five star :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Try to be better. Reputation is earned, not given like a participation trophy.

    Mueller will be known as the cleaner............Process Master. Master of Process Crimes. Not one "crime" . Had Game Day Bob been actually looking for Russian Collusion, he'd have indicted Christopher Steele, Orr, both Podestas.......and himself. "Uranium Bob".

    I realize this is a horrible turn of events for you, but it may get worse. Stay tuned! :banana:
     
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    The powers that allow government to require you to fill out a tax return and provide such information is the congresses power to tax. So using tax returns outside of this pupose would be a constitutional violation unless a law was found to be broken and such information then became important to an investigation.

    So even though the IRS/government has his tax returns, congress requesting the returns would violate the 5th amendment unless his 'testimony' was determined to be false therefore breaking the law?
     
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    Yeah, they duped me.

    It's great that you are so happy about the GOP duping everyone, and your disappearing tax cut, and the trillions of dollars added to the debt, and the corporate windfall.

    :banana::applause::roflol:
     
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    And if they
    ???

    Juvenile post
     
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    Now that is a thoughtful post, short but thoughtful
     
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    Please cite the code you refer to.
     
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    agree, they will be released.. and I bet there is no audit and that is just another Trump lie
     
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    the Dem candidates for President have already released theirs, Trump is the only President in the last 40 year not too, what does Trump have to hide?

    Trump promised the public he would release them... Trump lied
     
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    WTF?

    The right not to incriminate oneself? So you think the tax returns would incriminate Trump?

    Anyway, it doesn't matter. The federal government already has his tax returns. Handing them over to Congress doesn't change the fact that the federal government already has them.
     
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    This isn't about whether he has committed tax fraud. At least not primarily.

    It is primarily about whether he has any conflicts of interest such that when acting as president he is actually acting in his own personal financial interests rather than in the interest of the country.
     
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    Yeah sure.
     
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    I have every confidence Obama went over trumps tax returns with a fine tooth comb between election night and Inauguration Day.
     
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    There is no legal basis to demand he do so.
     
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    7 years from now? Won't be up to Trump then.
     
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    Link please.
     
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    Thanks for the link.

    "(f)Disclosure to Committees of Congress
    Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return orreturn information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayerotherwise consents in writing to such disclosure."

    In reading the above I doubt the congress critters want to touch this. They know it will be leaked. They also know that in this instance those leaks will be prosecuted without exception or title.
     
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    If I'm reading that correctly, for any reason, they can request a return be turned over to the Committee on Ways and Means, Committee on Finance, and Joint Committee on Taxation. It then must be a closed executive session, unless the taxpayer allows other access. Or are the reasons they can ask for those returns elsewhere? It also says the president can request tax returns. Do they really want to open that can of worms?
     
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    Why do I think that won't bother them a bit?
    Actually they don't care so much about the actual taxes, but are interested in who Trump owes money to - stuff like that.
     
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    You said there was no legal basis. There is. It comes with limitations, but it is there.
     
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    OK, what, you want me to say you were right? OK, if that is correct you were right.
     

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