Kim Says He’ll Give Up Weapons if U.S. Promises Not to Invade

They are poor, that's true. But it's not a threat to Kim. He can handle it.

 

It'll be great if the average NK citizen can get a better life out of this.

 

The leftist spin machine is already out in the media and social media giving credit to Moon for any progress towards denucleurization of NK.

 

you guys are just optimistic, bit naïve really, this is not the 1st or 2nd or 3rd or 4th time NK promise to stop or get rid nuke. Now NK has nuke, its gonna take major concession from US/SK for them to get rid of it. Its simply naïve to think Nk will just take our word and belief it. NK say the same since 90s then turn back on its words.

 

Stickin it to the libs, after all is the end all be all of life.

 

It is a threat

All dictators fear their own people

And with good reason

 

The nukes and ICBMs are all I care about at this time

A better life for north koreans will take much longer

 

North Korea's vow to shut Punggye-ri nuclear site appears mostly symbolic

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-...-shut-punggye-ri-nuclear-site-appears-n869991

 

Thats true. The internet is full of links of that promises. Just type in google "north korea promises to abandon nuclear", and you'll see there is a plenty of them since the old times. North Korea promised to abandon nuclear tests for decades, and they conducted negotiations with the US on this issue for decades. And what is the result? Now they have ICBM and nuclear warhead. Today NK may talk about abandoning nuclear weapon for decades too, or maybe for centuries, and it's completely unclear what will be the result. But what I really believe - they are not stupid. No chance NK may abandon nukes today, under given conditions in the world.

 

Nobody has any idea what's going on in the inner circle of that power structure. Don't pretend you do. What we can do on though is postulate that the tough stance and tough sanctions Trump has imposed have had the desrired effect and may be causing internal dissent. Evidence for this would be Kim ceasing nuke and missle test and holding out an olive branch.

 

Fortunately Kim has offered much more than just shutting that site down.

 

Just as they did to Gorbachev for tearing down the wall.

 

Sorry, but I can't agree. Kims transfer the power in NK since 50s, and everything is ok for them. In the 90s North Koreans lived much poorer, by the way. I don't see facts which would support your point.

 

Don't pretend you do.
As I have already said, no any signs that Kims' power may be in trouble in NK. As we don't any facts, there is nothing to speak about.

 

Not naive but cautiously optimistic. Fact is the tough stance Trump took that the left said would exaserbate the problem has successfully stopped Kim in his tracks and brought him to the bargaining table.

 

My evidence is Kim looking for a bargain. What's yours?

 

The famine of the 90s is over but that's a pretty low bar to set for saying things are much better now.

 

My evidence is Kims were looking for a bargain since 90s. And the only change is that now Kim is looking for a much better bargain than his father looked for before.

 

This was a quick and radical turn for Kim to make. He suddenly switched from nuke test and mislle test and threats of nuke attacks and invasion to talking about disarming and ending the Korean war. No coincidence this happened as Trump ratcheted up pressure and rhetoric.

 

Exactly. Why would KJU want to prevent something that won't ever happen in the first place?

Why would he end a war he's winning? If KJU wanted to denuke, he could have done it before he completed his tests.

 

You can say that things look some better now than they did six months ago, and six years ago, remaining skeptical and cautiously optimistic at the same time.

Nobody knows the final outcome of this. Just gotta wait, no "instantized knowledge" on the ingredients label.

 

I don't think China fears America for a second. I believe the reverse is much truer.

 

Well, one may say it happened as NK made successful test of ICBM. But as I've said, Kim may talk about disarming for a long, very long time. And after that time have passed, highly likely Kim would have anything else to talk about.

But I'm not going to dispute about it. I understand your point, ok. Only time will tell who was right.

 

The dynasty that has run NK has used America as the Boogeyman to keep it's population living in fear and accepting all the money going to the military as they starved. If Kim goes home telling them he has forced America to it's knees and made them agree not to invade he will be a national hero.

 

China would be crazy if they didnt fear or in another words respect the miliary power of the US

As well as not wanting to upset or derail their mercantile economic attacks on our country