Knowing what we know now, what would have been the best prevention and sustainable strategies?

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  1. nopartisanbull

    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    I still believe the Taiwanese have implemented the best “Let’s keep Working/Let’s keep teaching” strategies, however, knowing what we know now, would the same strategies have effectively worked in the U.S?

    Absolutely not!

    Taiwan’s proactive measures;

    .........General Alert (Dec 31st).....a key Health Official was made aware of Dr. Li Wenliang’s online-warnings to his associates about a Sars-like virus at his hospital in Wuhan.

    ..........Within the first two weeks of January/prior to their first confirmed case.

    a. Due to a very high demand of masks, and in an effort to keep the cost low, Taiwan stopped exporting masks, and converted several corporations to manufacture protective gear.

    b. Wuhan/Taiwan travel ban, and airport screening/quarantine measures were implemented.

    Note; Back then, and thereafter, Western nation’s Covid19 radars we’re aiming towards Geneva.

    .........From mid Jan to mid Feb;

    a. Aggressive testing/contact tracing/isolating measures were implemented, and sustained.

    b. Several social distancing measures were implemented, and sustained.

    c. Some lockdowns, mainly large entertaining/sporting events

    d. Several restrictions/social distancing measures were relaxed on Jun 7th. Taiwan’s Jun 7th daily cases, ZERO!

    e. All of the above, and the following contributing factors;

    1. A highly disciplined society, both collectively and individually.

    2. No politicization of preventive measures.

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    Conclusion; We’re certainly not Taiwanese, and in reference to most Western nations, It is what it is.
     
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    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    Some anticipated responses;

    1. Sweden implemented the best strategy;

    Question; Had Trump promoted/implemented a herd immunity strategy........?

    According to several projected hospitalizations/deaths models, bottom line; REALISTICALLY/politically impossible to implement during an election year, thus, shut the **** up!
     
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    Covid wasn't on the radar screen of congress or the media because impeaching Trump was most important
     
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    Trump was briefed about the virus on January 23rd. To suggest that impeachment was ruling the news doesn't diminish the fact that he was told.
     
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    Covid wasn't on the radar screen of the media or congress. Impeachment was the order of the day
     
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    Hey, if you want to go with the excuse that Trump was hunkered down in the west wing watching the impeachment process and ignoring briefings, I'm okay with that.
     
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    Trump was briefed about the very strong possibility that this kind of pandemic was coming very late in 2016, while he as still the President-Elect. His only response was to "streamline" the particular office that handled pandemics out of existence in 2017.
     
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    we are not a monarchy

    Covid wasn't on the radar screen of congress or the media. Impeachment was the order of the day

    I bet I could look back here and find posts from you cheering on impeachment. The virus seems to be just a game to you as you want to politicize a virus. A virus that is worldwide
     
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    But leadership comes not from the media or Congress but from the Executive...

    And obviously we got none
     
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    I think maybe you should go back and check my posts - its clear you don't know a thing about me. I am not politicizing the virus - in fact, I think that's why we are in the crisis we are - because it has been politicized. We now have red and blue states dealing with the virus differently - simply because they are red or blue. And the governors and how they are handling this crisis are either praised or vilified - simply because they are red or blue. America is not handling this crisis the way it needs to - because of the politicization of it. I didn't make that up - or start it. It is what it is.
     
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    Being told a giant meteor is hurling toward the earth doesn't mean there is anything you can really do about it.

    Anyway, the governors, blue and red alike, should have held off until after the 4th of July to start easing restrictions. That weekend and the weeks after was when the numbers started going south in a lot of places.
     
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    Yes, all these months later, we and Sweden are pretty much in the same place.

    While our treasury was plundered and our economy was crushed, Sweden seems to be intact in those regards.

    While we all hate each other and call each other names, the Swedes seem to be pretty mellow and not in a civil war.

    Yes, it's hard not to compare and contrast the 2 different approaches.
     
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    The best preventative measure the united states could have implemented would have been closing itself off from the rest of the world and implementing isolationist tactics, no individuals allowed in under any circumstances. Closing of all borders and ports of entry.

    but such a proposal would have been condemned as being xenophobic and racist.
     
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    Yeah, the senate trial droned on and on and on, until the acquittal vote on Feb. 5, and then a couple more days to explain the individual votes. Pierre Delecto lost the most of anybody.
     
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    Good points!

    According to the John Hopkins’ Pandemic Preparedness ranking, USA scored 100% for “Closing borders”????????

    In fact, after I’ve read our preparedness report card, only one question popped up in my mind;

    What the **** happened?
     
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    I wanted to type out a long post detailing several steps necessary to contain the next pandemic and then halfway through I realized it was pointless. Americans will NEVER accept or abide by the list of things we'd need to collectively do in order to defend against the next COVID. We're just too selfish, too arrogant, too distrustful, too disgusting, and too politically divisive.
     
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    1. All things being equal, why do you think it wouldn't have worked in the US (knowing what we know now)?

    2. Do you think the Administration's handling of the pandemic would have been different if we weren't in an election year? If so, in what ways?
     
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    More, it would have delayed the inevitable.
     
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    The nation of Vietnam was doing nothing more than delaying the inevitable when it waged war against the united states. Eventually the delays added up to victory no longer being cost effective, and the united states abandoned the endeavor entirely.

    With sufficient delays, anything can potentially be possible.
     
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    Yes, but stopping the spread of a virus is not one of them. :angel:
     
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    Best strategy:

    Do nothing.

    Viruses and mammals have co-existed for millions of years.

    The COVID Hoax is VASTLY more dangerous than just another in a long line of viruses.
     
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