Krauthammer: Biggest Scandal of All Is What the President Was Doing for 8 Hours?

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  1. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Nailed it! Benghazi is the one scandal of the three that threatens Obama directly and therefore the entire Obama admin machine.

    This is why the other two scandals were introduced into the fray by the Obama admin within 48 hours of the three Benghazi whistle blowers testifying to the nation in front of congress. Obama can distance himself from the IRS and DoJ, but he cannot separate himself from his own actions and inaction concerning Benghazi.

    Remember, the administration's Mouth of Obama, Jay Carney, hand-picked several members of the media for a secret briefing. When this was discovered, the secret meeting became a "deep background" discussion. Also, several media figures sympathetic to the Obama admin visited the WH a week or two ago. I have yet to see even a list of the hand-picked reporters published. But, the IRS scandal seems to be taking center stage in the media's coverage.

    There have been some reports of Obama admin officials regretting Benghazi and saying that they called the GOP stupid, when they were in fact stupid. This is of course a weak mea culpa designed to accept a level of blame below threatening the president.

    As Mr.Krauthammer points out, Obama is far more involved than his WH being "stupid" or "idiots". He was advised of the attack and disappeared. We have been told next to nothing about his whereabouts and actions on that night. The Mouth of Obama said that any questions are "irrelevant". This clearly shows where they think the danger lies.

    Obama was obviously concerned about his foreign policy unraveling on the eve of an election and he spent the night trying to protect himself by blaming a video. In reality, his administration attacked Libya (with NATO's help) and replaced a dictator that had obeyed the Bush admin's warnings. In his place, a shaky "gov't" was established. But, at what cost? Now, Libya has militias with AQ ties moving freely in the country. This is progress in the War on Terror (Islamists)? The Obama admin weakened the State Dept's security in Libya and refused to answer Amb. Stevens' request for back-up. And, what was Amb. Stevens up to in Libya anyway? Was he buying guns back from militias? Was he trying to buy MANPADS anti-aircraft missiles? Was he running guns and MANPADS into Syria via Libya/Turkey?

    Something went very wrong, and Amb. Stevens got himself trapped in Benghazi. Obama left the meeting at 5pm never to be seen again that noght. He never talked to Sec of Defense Panetta and Gen. Dempsey. They were left in charge of the US military's reaction to 30-40 traped Americans under infantry assault in Benghazi. But, their reaction was inaction. They said that NO US military aircraft left the ground on that night. In fact, that they appeared to have no concerns about the attacks continuing. Why? Are we to believe that these two men and the Pentagon didn't think the militias would continue to attack and decided that close air support would never be needed, or did were they told from the beginning that their would be no "Blackhawk Down" rescue or air support? Did Obama give a "stand-down" order and leave? Did he just make himself unavailable to them and thereby prevent any orders to enter Libyan air space to be issued?

    And, where did the drone come from? Why didn't it buzz the mortar team or even crash into it? Where were the naval assets in the Med? We've heard estimates from 3-9 hours to get jets to Benghazi. How quickly would they have got to Benghazi, if the president were trapped there? What would have been done differently then? Then, we heard that they would need refueling. Doesn't our ally Libya have airports? Air bases? Why did that useless president call the Libyan president and ask for immediate assistance?

    These are the questions that the Obama admin is stonewalling to avoid answering. This is what they really fear. The IRS and DoJ scandals may take out Holder and underlings, but Benghazi threatens Obama directly.
     
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    Notice though that there is no public out cry.
    Not only does he and Hillary not care, "what difference does it make", but 90% of Americans no longer care.
     
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    Leftys dont care if the president is derelict in his sworn duty.
     
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    Keep worrying about Benwhere.... Obama will be nominating 3 judges to the the DC Circuit Court of Appeals...Way more important then your smear campaign against the President.
     
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    I didn't know we could stop Obama from nominating judges.

    But if we can I would sure like to hear more about it.
     
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    Romney tried to make a campaign issue out of it, misquote the President, then tried to play the media is against card when the debat moderator called him on it. Hence why majority of folks don't care...
     
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    No, majority of folks don't care because they have no clue or are just all dumbed out on Honey Booboo
     
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    Which is a shame. American diplomat and his security were killed for no reason other than "hatred for America" and no one cares.
    And people still wonder whats wrong with the US.
     
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    I don't agree with that. The Obama admin went into full blown panic mode over three whistle blowers. There are more waiitng in the wings and we still haven't heard from the surviovors or Gen. Ham. Also, they will likely haul Hillary back in front of the committee under oath this time.

    If the American people learn that a stand-down order came from Obama, or he wouldn't pick up the phone to help, he'd done.

    If they find out that he orchestrated a cover-up, while Americans fought for their lives, he's done.

    Regardless, this will kill the Democrats in 2014, and they know it.

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    I thought liberals loved to talk about geography and distant rulers names? Or, is that just when they want to make a Republican candidate look stupid in an interview.
     
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    Fillibuster the vote for confirmation. Why do you think Obama is nominating these folks right now. He wants the GOP to Fillibuster them. Then he can play the whole GOP is going after me personally card. Then he point to all the IRS and Libya stuff that the GOP is throwing at him plus the Fillibuster. And in one small move he changes the whole conversation regarding all these "scandals."

    As a Democrat I love it. As a neutral politics watcher I am impressed by it.
     
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    [video=youtube;r1dTPsa40GU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1dTPsa40GU[/video]
     
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    So there really is nothing the Republicans can do to stop Obama nominating judges but you just like to stick your tongue out at us anyway?

    Got it.
     
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    Keep playing on the Libya card. Just proves you have nobody for 2016 and you are scared about Hillary running and winning.
     
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    The moderator lied to help obama.
     
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    I am worried about putting an unqualified woman in the White House.

    And Hillary is unqualified.

    She made a mess of the State Department over the Benghazi fiasco and we won't let her forget it.
     
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    I watched the debate live. I know wha I saw. Candy handed Mitt his ass to him. And all the conservatives at the time went ape about it since they thought it wasn't fair she interjected herself into the debate.

    Y'all wanted to knit pick about if Obama called it an attack of terror, y'all lost that arguement. Now you want to reopen this whole thing and be taken seriously....Should went that route com the start and maybe people would care what about this issue.

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    Doesn't change the fact the GOP has nobody in line for 2016 nor the fact y'all are scared of her.
     
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    The public dont and wont care and as much of the media that still is slobbering over Obama will keep the lid down.
    But the IRS deal is what will keep peoples ears perked up.
    Diplomats, security details? People look at those guys as guys that put themselves in harms way to begin with.
    But the IRS? That has the power and opportunity to affect anyone of us at any time.
     
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    Remember when Bush caught (*)(*)(*)(*) from the left and Michael Moore over the 7 minutes he spent not reacting after 9/11 took place? I wonder what they would have said if he had not reacted for 8 hours?
     
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    Bush was with a room full of children. What did anyone one want. 30 secret service agents come rushing in and rush Bush out in a panic?
    Bush handled himself like a man. Obama, dicked around for hours while Americans were being killed. Fighting for thier lives and running out of ammo.
     
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    Apparently, it was more important to get their stories straight. Remember, this was a terrorist attack right before the election....and on 9/11, no less. Their only concern then was that this would be devastating to the election. Obama and Hillary BOTH went into "cover my ass mode." Nope---there were certainly no pictures of an intense Obama watching the proceedings like when HE got bin Laden!! In fact, he went right on campaigning.....leaving the next morning to raise some money for his campaign. First things first with Obama.

     
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    Obama does that regardless of what the Republicans do or don't do. Obama is about dividing. He cannot give a speech without dividing people up into groups; the good ones (per him) and the bad ones (per him). He is and always has been about dividing this nation.
     
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    I want to know who gave the "stand down" order.
     
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    I don't really care what the lugubrious Mr Krauthammer says. He just uses big words to recite the talking points.

    Besides, he needs to gin up Benghazi.

    The campaign fell flat outside the right wing bubble.

    The three "whitleblowers" had already given the same testimony before, so nothing new was learned. We did learn that statements made by their activist "lawyer" in the pre lauch publicity were false. But the wingnuts don't care.

    Issa's hearings exposed nothing. The e-mail story turned out to be another political motivated hit job.

    So, now Issa is spooling up for another round with subpoenas while Krauthammer launches the campaign.

    The IRS thing has legs in that it is apparant that IRS employees did target tea party groups after recieving a flood of similar applications.

    What the GOP doesn't want is anyone looking into these tea party groups.

    They don't want questions asked, because they don't want it publically revealed that most of these groups really were fronts for big money and lobbyists.

    So, they're back on Benghazi, the Whitewater of the 21st century. Same tactics. Same outcome.
     
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    I do too...

    What if those SEALS held off the terrorists for 12 hours? 16 hours? 24 hours? When was the Commander in Chief going to actually allow our people to have support? He personally approves all drone attacks... yet didn't approve and was not involved in the defense of our ambassador or people abroad? What Liberal sheep believes that lie?
     
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